Looks like we might finally get JDS vs Reem

[Luke]

Reem has some decent takedowns, though. And his top control is pretty dominant.

He does, I agree, but I don't think decent TD's will get JDS down.

Yeah, and I've also seen the way he fights in MMA contests. Go back and watch him against Mir and the first couple of rounds against Bigfoot.

If JDS was easy to wreslte, Stipe would have done it . Even Cain couldn't keep him down until he beat him to a pulp.And I only remember 1 TD vs Bigfoot....the same Bigfoot Cain was able to TD at will.

I'm just saying Reem vs Cain wreslting is a huge difference...and it took Cain's level to get him down

[SPX]

If JDS was easy to wreslte, Stipe would have done it .

I didn't say it was easy. I also said Reem is delusional.

Your question was what is he thinking.

[Luke]

I didn't say it was easy. I also said Reem is delusional.

Your question was what is he thinking.

I was just looking at JDS fights and he's been taken down more than I thought. Not a lot, but more than I remember, so maybe that is Reem's plan.

[poopoo333]

Didn't Stipe take JDS a couple times?

I don't think Stipe could have done that in 2010-2013.

I really think JDS is going backwards. Too much damage. And now too much drug testing.

[Luke]

Didn't Stipe take JDS a couple times?

I don't think Stipe could have done that in 2010-2013.

I really think JDS is going backwards. Too much damage. And now too much drug testing.

I think he got him down once....possibly twice, but didn't JDS pop back up

But yeah, JDS is going downhill. His best chance to get the title was/is taking on Werdum. He can't beat Cain and I don't even think he'd beat Stipe again

[Éire]

JDS has been through some wars but lets not pretend that Reem hasn't been knocked out 9 times in his very long career. It could of course be argued that 75 minutes of getting the shit kicked out of you if worse than getting your brain switched off and being protected from further punishment 9 times.

I think this fight is a lock.

JDS KO RD. 1

[Luke]

^^^ I think after 3 minutes, I could KO Reem with a pillow to be honest

[SPX]

I think this fight is a lock.

JDS KO RD. 1

I don't know that I'd quite say lock, but yes, I am quite confident that JDS takes it.

[Éire]

I don't know that I'd quite say lock, but yes, I am quite confident that JDS takes it.

Fair enough. I really don't see any way that Overeem beats him.

[SPX]

Fair enough. I really don't see any way that Overeem beats him.

The only way I can think of is the same way Werdum beat Cain:

JDS shows up and he just doesn't act like JDS.

[CriticalHit]

JDS' lack of improvement in the clinch over his career is still stunning to me and is a bad vulnerability to have against Reem(esp. with Reem being more gameplan oriented with Jackson's). Reem's defense is still pretty iffy though and wouldn't be able to survive a JDS overhand. There's also JDS' poor cage awareness that has him circling into it and sometimes cutting his own self off but is more of a problem against wrestlers and pressure strikers.

Reem would have to have the most consistent performance defense-wise of his MMA career but he has a decent shot at a dec. or late guillotine(he has an excellent one). He's the rightful big underdog though. Win or lose I have to say it's been a bit sad to see Junior's game stagnate and taking so much damage in this stage of his career.

[Éire]

JDS' lack of improvement in the clinch over his career is still stunning to me and is a bad vulnerability to have against Reem(esp. with Reem being more gameplan oriented with Jackson's). Reem's defense is still pretty iffy though and wouldn't be able to survive a JDS overhand. There's also JDS' poor cage awareness that has him circling into it and sometimes cutting his own self off but is more of a problem against wrestlers and pressure strikers.

Reem would have to have the most consistent performance defense-wise of his MMA career but he has a decent shot at a dec. or late guillotine(he has an excellent one). He's the rightful big underdog though. Win or lose I have to say it's been a bit sad to see Junior's game stagnate and taking so much damage in this stage of his career.

I agree with you for the most part.

If JDS comes in and starches Reem and just looks fantastic, do you put it down to Reem being a bum or do you think that Stipe is a lot better than people give him credit for? Cause although it seems that way, I'm not sure I'm ready to say that JDS has stagnated that much. I think he's still right behind Cain and Werdum. I just think Stipe has improved immensely.

[Luke]

I agree with you for the most part.

If JDS comes in and starches Reem and just looks fantastic, do you put it down to Reem being a bum or do you think that Stipe is a lot better than people give him credit for? Cause although it seems that way, I'm not sure I'm ready to say that JDS has stagnated that much. I think he's still right behind Cain and Werdum. I just think Stipe has improved immensely.

Stipe is a lot better than people give him credit for. I'd pick him to beat JDS in a rematch.

Its gonna be hard for Reem to go 3 complete rounds without getting caught. He was even hurt by Roy in his last fight, and that was the smartest I've ever seen him fight. I just don't think he has the gas tank to play perfect defense for 3 rds.

[CriticalHit]

I agree with you for the most part.

If JDS comes in and starches Reem and just looks fantastic, do you put it down to Reem being a bum or do you think that Stipe is a lot better than people give him credit for? Cause although it seems that way, I'm not sure I'm ready to say that JDS has stagnated that much. I think he's still right behind Cain and Werdum. I just think Stipe has improved immensely.

I meant stagnate in the sense that he hasn't improved his weaker areas. He's still an elite HW no doubt and gives most of the top 10 hell. That lack of growth in large part opened the way for Stipe to have that much success pressuring and keeping him on the cage despite dropping the dec. imo. Stipe has improved as well.

JDS isn't old for HW and if it was just that then it wouldn't be too bad but when combined with the damage he's sustained in those 3 fights it's the kind of thing that could keep him away from ever regaining the belt. Not that it's Reem likely batters him. If anything it'll be brutal body knees.

[Ludo]

The only way I can think of is the same way Werdum beat Cain:

JDS shows up and he just doesn't act like JDS.

Cain did show up and act like Cain, though. Werdum just had the tools to neutralize all three of Cains gameplans. After that he just didn't know what else to do. Getting the shit beat out of you is way more tiring than dominating.