TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

[MMA_scientist]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

I didn't get a chance to place my bet on Howard at -215. It already moved to -240.

Hallman is over the hill... I was on teh fence at -215, at -240 I don't know that I wm going to be making that bet

[SPX]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

He may be over the hill, but he's also 6-1 in his last 7 fights, including 4 first round finishes (5 if you count his win via DQ). I understand that the level of competition that he was facing may be suspect, but several of those fights were in the IFL or Strikeforce.

I see he's at +190 and I hope that line keeps moving because I will bet it.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Howard is on a win streak of his own, against better competition though.

Hallman's win streak is all paper.

His opponent's records for the streak:

11-9
6-5
11-7
3-5
1-2

Cmon. Best winning % is 61% , the average is 48%. That streak is against sub .500 comp.

[SPX]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

I hear you. I think Howard should be the favorite here, but nothing over -150. Hallman's more experienced and he's only 34. There are still plenty of competitors who are doing well around that age.

I went ahead and dropped .5u on Hallman at +198.

I guess I missed the boat on Houston unless his line comes down because I'm not taking him at the current odds.

[zY|]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

I'm not betting on any of this garbage.

I wish I had funds in my bookmaker account earlier. Kimbo opened at +200 on Sportsbook. That would've been a sick ass arb.

[Luke]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Me missed again but whats new

[Luke]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

I'm not betting on any of this garbage.

I wish I had funds in my bookmaker account earlier. Kimbo opened at +200 on Sportsbook. That would've been a sick ass arb.

you can get Kimbo at +220 at matchbook and thegreek

[SPX]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Here's what I got:

Matt Hamill -- .57u to win 1u

I'm really kicking myself on this one right now as his line has greatly improved from the time I bet on him. The reasons I went with Hamill are as we discussed on the forum previously. He's strong as hell, has real KO power, and his only legit loss is to Rich Franklin. I do agree that Jones should be the favorite, but not to the extent that he is. He may be able to outclass Hamill all night, but if Hamill connects and hurts Jones then I think that could be all she wrote for the Jones hype train.


Kimbo Slice -- .25u to win .65u

Alexander opened at -115 and if I could've gotten some of that action then I definitely would have. But by the time I was able to place bets his line had moved significantly and I didn't feel comfortable betting on him anymore. Kimbo's line continued to move up. Personally, I think that Alexander will go out and be ultra-aggressive and end this one early. But I have a vague suspicion that Kimbo's gameplan might surprise us. If his trainers are smart, they will have had him training his ground game extensively because if Kimbo could actually take Houston down then Houston may not be able to get back up. That's what I'm hoping for. Either way, it's a small bet.


Dennis Hallman -- .5u to win .98u

Hallman's an aged competitor, but he's only 34. In his last 7, he is 6-1 with 4 first round subs. Now allow me to add a caveat: The competition that he has been fighting has definitely been lackluster. Still, I think that's impressive as most of these wins were either in the IFL or Strikeforce. As for Howard, he has not impressed me. I've watched several of his fights and he seems to be okay in all areas, but not particularly good in any of them. He doesn't really have KO power and I don't think he's going to get a sub against a vet like Hallman. Also, I think he may have a hard time outwrestling him as well. On the other hand, Howard is younger and has been fighting better competition. Surprisingly, Hallman opened as a slight favorite, though his line moved quickly and significantly. But it seems the oddsmakers were thinking along lines similar to myself. I'm not saying he necessarily deserves to be the favorite, but I don't think he deserves to be +210 either.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

GL tonight SPX.

Only thing I got is a "you pay for the pizza" bet with my boy. I got Houston.

[SPX]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Mmm, pizza.

[zY|]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

I've just got 1u on Jon Jones @ -185 on Sportsbook. I wonder if they would mind if I arbed that out, they've got Hamill at +235 now. LOL

[Mr. IWS]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Im hurt. No Abe Wagner on the card tonight.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

In case you didnt know, this guy is about his bread. :)

[Mr. IWS]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Marcus Jones needs to go to Abu Dhabi cause MMA aint his thing. Dude still has no clue standing up.

[SPX]

Re: TUF 10 Finale - Dec 5th - Discussion

Marcus Jones needs to go to Abu Dhabi cause MMA aint his thing. Dude still has no clue standing up.

His standup needs work, but he landed some shots. He also needs to work on his guillotine. When he had that thing sunk in I thought it was over but apparently he didn't have it on right.