Evans-Rampage UFC 114

**MMA_scientist** · 05-10-2010, 03:07 PM

Re: Evans-Rampage UFC 114

I will be on diego as well if he ever opens @ BM

**southbaysurf** · 05-10-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by MMA_scientist

Went out and researched Hathaway. He is a jack of all trades type fighter. He doesn't have anything for Diego. Got taken down a lot by Story. Woudn't stand with Taylor.

Pull the trigger.

I think you're selling Hathaway a bit short. I'm probably just arbing off the +250 avg that I have on Hath for 3U but I give him a real chance to win.
Diego was nothing special and got chased out of the division once already. He was even 'in tough' against Clay Guida.

**poopoo333** · 05-10-2010, 03:40 PM

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If Bisping's odds aren't ridiculous, I will be on him for a medium-big play. I am also looking at:

Luiz Cane: His stock may go down due to getting quickly KO'd at UFC 106, and people will be looking at this as a striker vs striker match. Cane is a BJJ black belt and can win on the ground.

Melvin Guillard: Close to even or a dog, I will take him. The line may be skewed due to Guillard doing things such as putting his head into Diaz's guillotine.

Don Hyung Kim: He is an aggressive grappler, and seems to be good and active from top control. Amir seems to be a good striker, but it was hard to tell against the New York Punching Bag how he would do against somebody that would press the action like Kim would. I think money will come in on Amir and give better odds on Kim.

I am also considering Rampage and Escudero. Anybody have thoughts on the Escudero/Dan Lauzon fight? I refuse to bet on Todd Duffee even though he will most likely win. It's hard to bet on a guy with an 8 second fight in the UFC.

**MMA_scientist** · 05-10-2010, 03:58 PM

Re: Evans-Rampage UFC 114

Originally posted by southbaysurf

Originally posted by MMA_scientist

Went out and researched Hathaway. He is a jack of all trades type fighter. He doesn't have anything for Diego. Got taken down a lot by Story. Woudn't stand with Taylor.

Pull the trigger.

I think you're selling Hathaway a bit short. I'm probably just arbing off the +250 avg that I have on Hath for 3U but I give him a real chance to win.
Diego was nothing special and got chased out of the division once already. He was even 'in tough' against Clay Guida.

I am gonna have to disagree that he wan't special @ ww. He was right there in the title picture. He got beat by Fitch, the #2 guy in the world, and Koscheck, the #4 or 5 guy in the world. Fitch beats everyone except GSP. Wins over Karo and Diaz are impressive, even today.

He came really close to finishing Guida in the first and was not in trouble in that fight at any point. Plus, Guida is good, there is no shame in a close fight with him. A win over Guida would be far and away Hathaway's best win. I personally think Diego is better suited to WW though.

Hathaway just doesn't have a base style, which is what i meant by the jack of all trades comment. He doesn't strike fear anywhere, he is just pretty good everywhere.

Diego can probably stand with him, but if not, he can take him down. I dare Hathaway to take Diego down. The only realistic out is to catch Diego standing. But only BJ has event hurt him standing. Even BJ didn't really finish him, he just got cut.

**MMA_scientist** · 05-10-2010, 04:00 PM

Re: Evans-Rampage UFC 114

Originally posted by poopoo333

I am also considering Rampage and Escudero. Anybody have thoughts on the Escudero/Dan Lauzon fight? I refuse to bet on Todd Duffee even though he will most likely win. It's hard to bet on a guy with an 8 second fight in the UFC.

I like Escudero a lot in that, but he is -400 or so. I would take him @ -300 though.

**SPX** · 05-10-2010, 04:07 PM

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I'm thinking some money might eventually come in on D-Lo.

I think Escudero wins, but after being stopped by Dunham in his last fight, he really shouldn't be this much of a favorite. With that said, Lauzon loses to everyone anyone's ever heard of, except for Bobby Green.

**MMA_scientist** · 05-10-2010, 04:34 PM

Re: Evans-Rampage UFC 114

Originally posted by SPX

I'm thinking some money might eventually come in on D-Lo.

I think Escudero wins, but after being stopped by Dunham in his last fight, he really shouldn't be this much of a favorite. With that said, Lauzon loses to everyone anyone's ever heard of, except for Bobby Green.

DLau definately doesn't have Dunham's skills on the mat.

He was also getting beat up pretty badly by Green in the first, IIRC

**SPX** · 05-10-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by MMA_scientist

He was also getting beat up pretty badly by Green in the first, IIRC

He was. He also won an Oscar. Best Actor for Nutshots.

**Luke** · 05-10-2010, 06:00 PM

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Dana White Says The Winner of Rampage Jackson vs. Rashad Evans Will Get The First Shot at Mauricio Shogun Rua

**SPX** · 05-10-2010, 06:06 PM

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^^^ That's sort of fucked since Rashad has only won one fight since getting KOd, but sure, I'll roll with it.

I wonder who Lyoto is going to fight next. They better not cock block him on the way back to the title and make him fight like 4 or 5 times.

**Svino** · 05-10-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by SPX

^^^ That's sort of fucked since Rashad has only won one fight since getting KOd, but sure, I'll roll with it.

I wonder who Lyoto is going to fight next. They better not cock block him on the way back to the title and make him fight like 4 or 5 times.

Doesn't seem too weird to me. A lot of times guys who lose the title get a shot at retaking it after just one other win. Evans would have two.

I suppose they could give Machida the loser of the Rashad/Page fight. He did say he would be willing to fight Little Nog. Maybe Jon Jones if Jones demolishes Matyushenko.

**Luke** · 05-10-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by SPX

^^^ That's sort of fucked since Rashad has only won one fight since getting KOd, but sure, I'll roll with it.

I wonder who Lyoto is going to fight next. They better not cock block him on the way back to the title and make him fight like 4 or 5 times.

My guess is Forrest Griffin or the loser of Evans/Rampage

**SPX** · 05-10-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Svino

Doesn't seem too weird to me. A lot of times guys who lose the title get a shot at retaking it after just one other win. Evans would have two.

I didn't say weird, but I do think that unless the fight where they lost the belt was real close (Machida/Shogun, BJ/Edgar) then the ex-champ should have to do some ladder climbing to get back to the belt. I'm not sure that two wins should be enough, but fuck it. I guess you gotta give the ex-champ some respect.

Originally posted by Svino

I suppose they could give Machida the loser of the Rashad/Page fight. He did say he would be willing to fight Little Nog. Maybe Jon Jones if Jones demolishes Matyushenko.

I hope Machida gets back out there in double-time. All of those sound like good matches, so let's make it happen. I also hope we get some good lines on Machida now that he just lost. I would definitely take Machida over Rashad or Rampage. But I honestly think I would take Jon Jones if I could get good enough odds.

**Luke** · 05-10-2010, 06:48 PM

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I might just pass on Evans-Rampage and fade both these guys in their next fights.

No way does Evans or Rampage beat ShoGun and no way either one of them beat Machida

**Svino** · 05-10-2010, 06:57 PM

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Yeah, I'm actually not all that interested in seeing Machida fight Griffin, Evans, or Rampage (who he beats) or Shogun (who I think he loses to again). Jones might potentially make a more interesting matchup; I know Machida has good takedown defense but it would be interesting to see it really put to the test.

You know what? Fuck it - give Machida the loser of Carwin / Lesnar. Don't tell me you wouldn't watch the hell out of that fight. And it gets him out of the LHW way so Anderson can step up and fight Shogun.

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