UFN 3/31 odds/discussion

[Luke]

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^^ ha. I read those. I just don't have anything useful to add.

I have decided to completely stop betting basketball and focus on boxing more ,so far its working.


Heck I dont care if you got insight on the fight say whatever you want

[Mr. IWS]

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yeah, but I don't like to make threads no one cares about.

I do it all the time,its called my all my boxing threads

[Mr. IWS]

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WAR NELSON!

[zY|]

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You just hate Roy because he is fat.

LOL true story.

And about Florian, I can see how he'd be the logical pick, but for some reason I have this feeling that Gomi is going to show up and just beat his ass. Maybe it's because I don't think Florian is really that great. His biggest wins are running away from Roger Huerta and outboxing Clay Guida. BFD.

[SPX]

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His biggest wins are running away from Roger Huerta and outboxing Clay Guida. BFD.

There's some truth to this.

I'd like to see him fight Griffin or Maynard.

[Ludo]

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And the only two guys he's ever lost to in the UFC are the last two guys to hold the belt. Plus there is his win over Stevenson who was one fight removed from losing the fight that gained BJ the belt. Maybe the Gomi of old could beat the Florian of now, but the Gomi of now will be lucky to see the third round with Florian.

[Ludo]

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3u parlay to win 3.3u on Florian, Nelson, and Okami

I'm sort of on the fence about Pearson. He's pretty good and definitely a good talent. But this Siver guy has a tendency to hit hard and be very proficient on the ground as well. I might stay away from that one in the end but I'll do some research.

[zY|]

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And the only two guys he's ever lost to in the UFC are the last two guys to hold the belt. Plus there is his win over Stevenson who was one fight removed from losing the fight that gained BJ the belt. Maybe the Gomi of old could beat the Florian of now, but the Gomi of now will be lucky to see the third round with Florian.

There's also that incredible assbeating he took from Diego.

[SPX]

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There's also that incredible assbeating he took from Diego.

You're educated enough to know that that was not only at a different weight class, but also at a whole other level of experience.

[zY|]

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There's also that incredible assbeating he took from Diego.

You're educated enough to know that that was not only at a different weight class, but also at a whole other level of experience.

So it doesn't count? They both dropped to LW so that's irrelevant and both were less experienced.

Seriously though, I've still yet to see any technical analysis of how Kenny will win. Just "oh Gomi sucks now". So how do you guys on Kenny see it going down? Is he going to outstrike Gomi? Surely he's not going to knock him out. I'd bet he has problems getting him down too.

I just can't see Kenny as that much of a favorite, even with Gomi's proclivities.

[SPX]

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Don't say "you guys" because I don't hardly know who the fuck Gomi is.

My point is that at this point Kenny's loss to Sanchez is of limited usefulness. If they fought today it's at best a pick 'em . . . otherwise Florian wins.

[zY|]

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He's the most accomplished LW of all time.

[SPX]

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He's the most accomplished LW of all time.

Japanese MMA.

'Nuff said.

[Ludo]

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No, actually, it doesn't count. It was 5 years ago, 30lbs heavier, and long before Florian developed his Muay Thai and clinching skills or any other skills for that matter to where they are today. So no, it doesn't count. He could knock him out at this point. Everyone said there was no way Cain Valasquez would knock Minotauro out, and look at what happened. When guys get up this way in thier career getting into battle after battle they lose a few things. First is the chin. More likely though is that Kenny bullies Gomi with the clinch for most of the fight, then he uses his elbows and kicks to finish him off.

[Svino]

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I think Florian has value, even though there are some big unknowns. Gomi may have a technical wrestling advantage, but I'd guess the fight takes place mostly on the feet, with Florian outstriking him.

I actually think that many of the lightweights that fight/fought in Japan are overrated, in much the same way that the non-Pride leagues produced a lot of overrated heavys in the Sylvia/Arlovski/Buentello/Rothwell era. When there are two different pools of fighters that don't cross much, people tend to assume the leagues are about equal, even if that's not always right. Gomi beat a lot of guys in Pride, but when I look at his resume, it doesn't impress all that much. Even close to his prime, he lost to Hansen, and who were the best guys he beat? Ishida? Sakurai? They're pretty good, but not worth the hype Gomi got. (I don't think Aoki deserves the #2 ranking, either.)

I'd love to be wrong. I always liked Gomi and I think it would be great if he started tearing shit up in the UFC.