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  • AC88
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 463

    #181
    Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

    Originally posted by SPX
    Originally posted by AC88
    I think if Brock shows up to fight Carwin period, his reign over HW is over.
    I was happy to get Carwin at +170, I'll say that much.
    I'm seeing him at +160 right now.

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    • Luke
      10 year vet
      • Oct 2006
      • 30060

      #182
      Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

      Originally posted by SPX

      I don't have insurance.

      Oh ,then be fucking careful then .
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 99906

        #183
        Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

        LES-KNAR!
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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          #184
          Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

          I will say this, Lesnar is not going to be able to ride Carwin. Carwin might not be as good a wrestler as Brock, but he is good enough to not get ridded for a long time. If Carwin gets battered on the mat, it is because he made a tactical mistake and tried to go to guard of something. If he gives his back and stands up, like I think all HW's should, he won't be getting held down for long.

          Throw in Brock's lay off, illness, and stupid haircut, and I am starting to like Carwin more and more.

          Brock's major path to victory should be blocked here. The only issue is that Carwin could easily run out of gas trying to stand up and escape the clinch.

          Still @ + odds, I am on it.
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            #185
            Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

            Originally posted by MMA_scientist
            The only issue is that Carwin could easily run out of gas trying to stand up and escape the clinch.
            Carwin's cardio is my biggest concern. We have no idea if he can fight past the first round without huffing and puffing.
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            • AC88
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 463

              #186
              Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

              Originally posted by SPX
              Originally posted by MMA_scientist
              The only issue is that Carwin could easily run out of gas trying to stand up and escape the clinch.
              Carwin's cardio is my biggest concern. We have no idea if he can fight past the first round without huffing and puffing.
              5th round is his best round!



              ... according to some UFC countdown from a long time ago

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              • Ludo
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 4931

                #187
                Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                At the same time though Carwins path to victory is blocked as well. Lesnar isn't stupid. As shown in the second Mir fight he does know how to train for an opponent's skill set. Also, Lesnar doesn't have as big a reach as many people think. The flaw in the 84" span comes in the system in which they use to measure it. They do a total wingspan measure for some stupid reason in MMA instead of armpit to knuckles like they should(since thats the part that matters). Anyway, they go across the chest from hand to hand. Because Lesnar has the chest of Mr Universe it skews the numbers a little bit. However what we do know is Lesnar can also throw a hell of a straight right. Carwin got wobbled and rocked by two right hands from Gonzaga, I'm pretty Sure Lesnar could rock him and take him down in the same fashion. That being said I think Lesnar will look to clinch him up and transition to a takedown that way.
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                • AC88
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 463

                  #188
                  Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                  Brock is still hyped too much IMO, and that's why he's getting favorite odds. Without his hype, the odds would be much more even and I think having Shane at over +150 is a steal. He will show everyone why he is undefeated and why he will stay undefeated after this fight.

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                  • Luke
                    10 year vet
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 30060

                    #189
                    Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                    Forrest Petz Replaces Julio Paulino, To Face Daniel Roberts

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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      #190
                      Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                      Originally posted by Luke
                      Forrest Petz Replaces Julio Paulino, To Face Daniel Roberts

                      Who replaces who?
                      I heart cock

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                      • Mr. IWS
                        215 Hustler
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 99906

                        #191
                        Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOL
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                        • zY|
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 8385

                          #192
                          Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                          Originally posted by SPX
                          Originally posted by Luke
                          Forrest Petz Replaces Julio Paulino, To Face Daniel Roberts

                          Who replaces who?
                          Noob alert.

                          Forrest Petz/Sammy Morgan is the answer to a UFC trivia question.
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                          • Ludo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4931

                            #193
                            Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                            So is Scott Ferrozzo
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                            • poopoo333
                              MMA *********
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 18302

                              #194
                              Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                              Lytle/Brown, who takes it?

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                              • Ludo
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 4931

                                #195
                                Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

                                Brown can't strike with Lytle but he has a much better ground game. If he can take Lytle down(which I believe he can, since Lytle has a tendency to over-commit to strikes at times) then he should be able to sub him after some position battling, or ride out a decision.
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