UFC 116 discussion/matchups

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

lol dont really kow what i was thinking but I put 5U on Leben @+250.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that bet. +250 is a good value on Leben IMO.

I have 1 unit on him. Might go one more.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

^^^^^^^^^I agree.

Although Im too scared to bet it.

[MMA_scientist]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Carwin has a lot more experience than Lesnar. I think Lesnar's wrestling is obviously better, but I would be surprised if he can hold Carwin down. When you watch college wrestling, the escape usually comes within about 10 seconds... no one can hold anyone down. On top of that, with the HW's, a lot of times it takes them forever to get a takedown... I wouldn't be surprised it Shane stuffs his takedowns.

My only question is Carwin's cardio. But then again, I have questions about Lesnar too, having been out for a year and coming off a colon resection.

I think the fight is difficult to call... but you have to take Carwin. But then again, I could be overestimating Carwin's wrestling. Maybe Lesnar will control him like nothing.

Also, Lesnar might have better hands than we are crediting. He did knock Herring down. He hasn't been forced to stand yet. But given the line, I have to go with Carwin. I would probably even pick Carwin outright.

[Thewiseman]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I have those same questions about Lesnar.

I think this fight is incredibly difficult to call with any degree of accuracy. I literally have no idea what's going to happen.

Thats how I feel. If Lesnar gets hit I really want to see how he handles that. I really hope Carwin wins, my buddy is a huge Lesnar fan and we are always going back and forth. He gave me +200 a few months ago.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I like Lesknar to maul the fuck out of Carwin. That is all.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Brock is -150 Luke!

I think that line goes back up a bit after the weigh in.

From looking at interviews, comparing the two of them standing next to people, Brock just looks so much bigger, and when they stand face to face, I think that will swing some money.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I think that line goes back up a bit after the weigh in.

From looking at interviews, comparing the two of them standing next to people, Brock just looks so much bigger, and when they stand face to face, I think that will swing some money.

Maybe so. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm actually surprised it's dipped as low as it has.

Carwin: More Experience, More Power, Decent (but good enough?) Wrestling
Lesnar: Bigger, More Explosive/Faster, Better(?) Wrestling, Better Cardio(?)

[Luke]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I think that line goes back up a bit after the weigh in.

From looking at interviews, comparing the two of them standing next to people, Brock just looks so much bigger, and when they stand face to face, I think that will swing some money.

Maybe so. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm actually surprised it's dipped as low as it has.

Carwin: More Experience, More Power, Decent (but good enough?) Wrestling
Lesnar: Bigger, More Explosive/Faster, Better(?) Wrestling, Better Cardio(?)

I'm not surprised its dropped .All I've read is the hype train on Carwin I figured it would go down thats why I've been waiting

I also dont know why people act like Carwins experience is so much more than Lesnar's .Carwin has fought around 14 total minutes in the Octagon and has fought 10 bums and two legit fighters in his career. Lesnar has fought one bum and three top fighters. If anything I'd say fighting two former champs and Herring gains you more experience than fighting 10 bums for 30 seconds each. I'd say the experience is a lot closer than other people say

[Luke]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Brock is -150 Luke!

I think that line goes back up a bit after the weigh in.

From looking at interviews, comparing the two of them standing next to people, Brock just looks so much bigger, and when they stand face to face, I think that will swing some money.

I think it goes back up to .I've seen reports Lesnar is going to look like a monster beside Carwin. I'll wait till a few days before weigh ins and then I'm pulling the trigger

[Luke]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I like Lesknar to maul the fuck out of Carwin. That is all.

Pretty much my thinking too

[SPX]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I also dont know why people act like Carwins experience is so much more than Lesnar's .Carwin has fought around 14 total minutes in the Octagon and has fought 10 bums and two legit fighters in his career. Lesnar has fought one bum and three top fighters. If anything I'd say fighting two former champs and Herring gains you more experience than fighting 10 bums for 30 seconds each. I'd say the experience is a lot closer than other people say

That's a legitimate point. I guess it's all in how you look at it.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Lesnar has literally two times the amount of ring time that Carwin does.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Lesnar has literally two times the amount of ring time that Carwin does.

But Carwin has more experience in the sport in general and more experience preparing for fights.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

Lesnar has literally two times the amount of ring time that Carwin does.

But Carwin has more experience in the sport in general and more experience preparing for fights.

I don't think it's an advantage either way.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 116 discussion/matchups

I don't think it's an advantage either way.

Maybe it's a push.