UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

[MMA_scientist]

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This fight I don't really care about the lines. Ive went back and value betting based on lines is losing me money. I'm just betting straight who I think is going to win regardless of the odds. I'm going to see how that works out over the next few ufc events. I started it on Bellator taking Megu at -800. So far it's working.

I am all for creating your own style... and whatever works. But you just HAVE to consider the line, you just have to. You will never make it long term without considering the line, it can't happen.

I bet favorites all the time, and I have made it work over a several years now. But you WILL hit losing streaks even betting on -400 fighters. You have to choose your favorites carefully. For me to pay -300 or so, it has to feel like an absolute lock-- he is going to win barring some totally unexpected occurence. I don't know, I just don't see this fight this way. I thought Frank had a chance before the first fight, and now I think he has an even better chance.

I think BJ will win, but I could totally see Frank getting it done again with either strikes or mixing in some takedowns and a little GNP.

[SPX]

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I think BJ's good at -233 or better. Frankie at +350 or better.

Other than that and I'll probably stay away.

[Luke]

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I'm with MMAscientist if I play anything over -300 it has to be a near lock'


Penn is far far from a near lock. It would have to be -175 or lower to get me to bet it

[sbjj]

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My gut tells me that Penn makes a statement this fight. But everything considered, I just can not bet him at the line ATM.

I mean seriously, if you are going to make a play this card on a line that high, why not just bet Randy. Would he not be more of a lock than Penn.

I also believe that the lines(as of late) have just been set too damn high on the favorites. Making some of the recent upsets seem larger than they should have been. 6 months to a year ago I could spot a couple of -150 to -220 guys on a card that I believed had good value. But recently those fights seemed to have dried up(at least in my mind).

[SPX]

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I also believe that the lines(as of late) have just been set too damn high on the favorites. Making some of the recent upsets seem larger than they should have been. 6 months to a year ago I could spot a couple of -150 to -220 guys on a card that I believed had good value. But recently those fights seemed to have dried up(at least in my mind).

I've noticed this for sure. -150 to -220 is reserved for fights that really could go either way, it seems. I suppose that's correct in regard to the percentages, but shit, why they gotta be so literal about it?

[Mr. IWS]

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I know this is old, but still cracks me the fuck up.

From the mouth of one James Toney

“All fights starts standing and that’s my comfort zone, that’s my domain and he’ll have to enter it. If he thinks he can just walk up on me and take it to the ground he’s got another thing coming, I’ll toss a bitch to the side if I have to. It doesn't matter if it’s MMA, kickboxing, hopscotch I got the highest fight IQ in the game period. Six weeks will be more than enough to learn the clinch game and all that, you feel me. I’ll be ready don’t worry about that, thing is it won’t even get that far I’m [going to] sit him down in the first minute. Even if it does go to the ground I was told my grappling is at gold belt level, so he’s in trouble pretty much everywhere. You see these MMA guys getting knocked out by sissy punches, well time to step up and fight a real puncher.”

[SPX]

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Six weeks will be more than enough to learn the clinch game and all that, you feel me.

LOL

BTW, do you think he was really serious about that "gold belt" comment or was he just fucking around?

[sbjj]

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You have to take into consideration that in Toney's mind he is the baddest man alive. He really believes it. He talks shit before every bing match like he is just going to destroy his opposition. So this nothing new.

I think this fight is going to be fun but ugly. I just can not wait to hear what Toney says after he gets whupped.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

Six weeks will be more than enough to learn the clinch game and all that, you feel me.

LOL

BTW, do you think he was really serious about that "gold belt" comment or was he just fucking around?

I think he is serious...LOL

Does every mma forum shut down with traffic if Toney KO's Couture in like 30 seconds?

[SPX]

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^^^ Sherdog explodes.

Probably every boxing forum does, too.

[Mr. IWS]

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^^^ Sherdog explodes.

Probably every boxing forum does, too.

Im kind of with Luke. I wanna see Toney win, just to watch all the chaos.

[Luke]

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Im kind of with Luke. I wanna see Toney win, just to watch all the chaos.

I think it would be awesome . Toney would never stop talking and would end up pissing off every MMA fan in America

[SPX]

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Fuck that.

This fight is for the pride and honor of MMA! No way in hell I'd want to see Toney win. Just like I wouldn't want to see Mayweather beat BJ.

[Luke]

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Fuck that.

This fight is for the pride and honor of MMA! No way in hell I'd want to see Toney win. Just like I wouldn't want to see Mayweather beat BJ.

You are soooo gay

MMA pride and honor ? Get the fuck outta of here.Whats is this fight going prove either way?

[Mr. IWS]

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