UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

[zY|]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

And I didn't realize the odds for KenFlo were out. Just took him at -145. Apparently he opened as the underdog? Weird.

You got rocks in your head today like SPX usually does?

Not only has the Kenflo line been out 3 months you're the one that posted it here

http://www.investwithsports.com/phpB...=8125&start=60

LOL awesome. I even said the same shit about Maynard being the favorite.

Maybe I just ignored since it came out in fucking May.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

You got rocks in your head today like SPX usually does?

Not only has the Kenflo line been out 3 months you're the one that posted it here

http://www.investwithsports.com/phpB...=8125&start=60

LOL

[Luke]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

LOL awesome. I even said the same shit about Maynard being the favorite.

Maybe I just ignored since it came out in fucking May.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

SPX = zY?

Add that to the list of aliases on IWS.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

Scientist, (or anybody), do you know anything about Amilcar Alves?

[edman5555]

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What are everyones thoughts on Florian/ Maynard? I think Florians standup is on a whole other level compared to Maynard. I'm not sure about the wrestling though, I know Maynard is better but I don't know if he is willing to go to the ground with Florian. It seems like he would have no choice though, he has to mix it up or he will get picked apart standing.

When Maynard fought Nick Diaz ( a fight I thought he lost) he never really made an effort to wrestle with him. I think that is because he was afraid to be submitted, Nick has a crazy triangle. In the stand up department Nick was peppering him like crazy. Gray landed a few "big" shots but his stand up doesn't really seem that developed. IMO Kenny is at least in the top 3 in the lightweight division stand up wise. I read he has an all new stand up coach and he says he is getting much much better before the Guida fight. He owned Guida. Guida beat Diaz. I don't usually use MMA math but here it goes.

Guida beat Diaz. No arugment there. As per judges, mmajunkie, and sherdog.

Florian Owned Guida. Domination.

Maynard beat Diaz according to the judges. However I thought Diaz won and according to sherdog and MMAjunkie, Diaz won.

Maynard and Guida are somewhat similar fighters in that they win by mixing up striking with takedowns utilizing their wrestling. I know they are different but those aspects are somewhat big for them.

So if Guida could do to Diaz what Maynard couldn't and Florian owned Guida I lean towards Kenflo over Maynard. Also keep in mind that Florian and Diaz are guys who like to strike and use BJJ.

Nate diaz = brown belt . Kenflo = black belt. NOTE: Diaz might be more dangerous for Maynard due to big long trianglin' legs.


I'm not sure on this. I will be on Kenflo but for how much, I don't know.

Opinions?

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

"o if Guida could do to Diaz what Maynard couldn't and Florian owned Guida I lean towards Kenflo over Maynard. Also keep in mind that Florian and Diaz are guys who like to strike and use BJJ."


This mindfucked my mind when I was reading this in my mind.


I think Florian will fight with a wide, low base to avoid the takedown while using his boxing and avoiding throwing any kicks and force Maynard to stand.

[Mr. IWS]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

This mindfucked my mind when I was reading this in my mind.

LMAO

[zY|]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

Maynard could've taken Diaz down and Guida'd him but he went out there and got sucked into Diaz talking shit to him and just threw haymakers at him. What a horrible fight that was.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

Maynard could've taken Diaz down and Guida'd him but he went out there and got sucked into Diaz talking shit to him and just threw haymakers at him. What a horrible fight that was.

Well I think he was afraid to take Diaz down.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

I just went through Gray Maynards previous opponets and he fought two guys with higher level Jitz. Nate diaz and Jim miller. He only attempted one take down in the third round against Jim. Miller actually tried to pull guard on Maynard to get him down. Didn't work.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

I just went through Gray Maynards previous opponets and he fought two guys with higher level Jitz. Nate diaz and Jim miller. He only attempted one take down in the third round against Jim. Miller actually tried to pull guard on Maynard to get him down. Didn't work.

You could be right about him not wanting to take these guys down. More likely I think it's a case of wrestler X getting a case of boxitis. Either way I'm not going to watch that terrible fight with Diaz again.

[poopoo333]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

I am starting to think Diaz is a really good bet over Davis.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

Why is Diaz a really good bet over Davis?

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 118 Penn-Edgar 2 Toney-Couture

I'm beginning to think Nik Lentz might be a really good bet.