UFC 120 England Oct 16th

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

I just watched the end of his fight against belcher and he looked pretty tired. He wasn't gassed like the Leben fight though.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

His standup isnt bad but I think Bisping will beat him there after watching him fight again. He looks strong as hell though, he beat belcher by taking him down more or less.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

http://www.mmatko.com/sean-sherk-vs-eva ... o-ufc-119/


Sherk Dunham fight. I just rewatched R2 and I can see why they give it to Sherk. Watch it again. The standup was actually pretty close up until the last minute or so. Dunham was landing more then.

It wasn't a bad decision. Though I could see them giving it to Dunham or even a draw.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

^^you mean round 2 where Dunham outlanded Sherk by 2 to 1 with 4 submission attempts?

[Luke]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

http://www.mmatko.com/sean-sherk-vs-evan-dunham-fight-video-ufc-119/


Sherk Dunham fight. I just rewatched R2 and I can see why they give it to Sherk. Watch it again. The standup was actually pretty close up until the last minute or so. Dunham was landing more then.

It wasn't a bad decision. Though I could see them giving it to Dunham or even a draw.

We finally found someone that scores a round as bad as Ludo does

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Watch the second round again. Your counting those submission attempts as a lot but forgetting that Sherk was willingly putting his neck in there to get the takedown and Dunham was not getting anywhere with them. The first 3.5 minutes of the round was all Dunham with his back up against the cage trying to avoid being taken down and getting taken down. 3.5 minutes is 70 percent of the round.

If you want to look at "outlanded him 2 to 1" as per compustrike you have to also consider that half of those punches were little swipes he was taking at Sherk while Sherk was taking him down or pushing him up against the cage.

After that 3.5 min mark they broke up and for 30 second not much happened. The last minute they were striking back and forth. Dunham got better of him there but if you really look you can see that Sherk is landing in the minute also.

I'm not saying you couldn't give that round to Dunham, the third round was also the most decisive so all judging rules aside..Just as a fight I would say Dunham did better overall, without round by round scoring.

However Sherk did win the first round undeniably and he was controlling more of the second round.

Strikes landed is def not the only basis for scoring. Octagon control, EFFECTIVE grappling. Those guillotines looked scary but in retrospect Sherk didn't give a shit they were there. He was really threatened. He cared so little, he kept putting his neck in there in order to get the takedown, which he got.

Honestly it was so close you could give it any way you wanted but a couple things are obvious.

R1 went to Sherk

R3 went to Dunham

R2 was really really close. This is what I was thinking when the fight was over and knew it would be a split Decision before they read the scores.

I think the fact that Dunham dominated R3 by a much much larger margin than Sherk did any other round which is why the decision was looked at as such a robbery.

Really it comes down to the scoring system being shitty. There needs to be way more of a variety. Just a 10,9 and 8 is very limited.

Overall Dunham was more effective, but the vast majority of what he did was in the third round.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

I meant to say "Those guillotines looked scary but in retrospect Sherk didn't give a shit they were there. He wasn't really threatened "

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Some people do feel that Sherk edged out the second round. I thought it was close, but gave it to Dunham.

In any case, Sherk was granted the win and it was against a very solid opponent in the division (potentially a future champ, in my opinion). Not only that, but this was a comeback fight, ring rust and all. It seemed that his cardio was not where it usually is this time around, so I expect him to be in even better shape next time now that he's officially back in action.

The question now is who does he fight next? I bet he gets something lined up pretty quickly under the circumstances. BJ is fighting Hughes. Maynard is fighting Edgar. Florian is coming off a loss, so that's doubtful, but it's a rematch that could be compelling. Gomi is a possibility and Guida is too, I suppose. If he can string together two more wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a fight for #1 contender. He did used to hold the belt, after all.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Some people do feel that Sherk edged out the second round.

These people are wrong.

[Luke]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Some people do feel that Sherk edged out the second round.

These people are wrong.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

These people are wrong.

I like how you chose to single out and respond to what is perhaps the least interesting element of my entire post.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

These people are wrong.

I like how you chose to single out and respond to what is perhaps the least interesting element of my entire post.

Well I didn't care about the rest.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Well I didn't care about the rest.

Fuck you.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Well I didn't care about the rest.

Fuck you.

Why are you mad that I didn't feel like talking about who Sherk fights next? I responded to what was relevant to me, like everybody does. Don't hate.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 120 England Oct 16th

Why are you mad that I didn't feel like talking about who Sherk fights next? I responded to what was relevant to me, like everybody does. Don't hate.

I think it's interesting that after not fighting to like a year and half he basically just became an instant title contender.