UFC 119 Sept 25th

[sbjj]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

I think SPX has a very valid point. Mir has proven he CAN beat good fighters, while GG has not proven that.

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I dont care who they both lost too, GG has flat out failed against anyone that resembles a good fighter.

dudes can say what they want about Mir, that he is lucky at the time he fought guys, what about the guys that were lucky to fight him when he was fucked up from the accident? That dont count?

He ripped Sylvias arm off, when that guy was undefeated KO'ing everyone
He beat the shit out of Nog when everyone thought Nog was better at everything than Mir
He beat Lesnar. I dont give a shit how you say the guy wilts under pressure, he was getting the shit beat out of him, and still had enough to [insert generic bjj blackbelt vs whitebelt comment]

If they fought today, he would fuckin wreck Pano, Christianson, and Vera. The dude is a top 10 HW, those other guys aint even ranked.

There it is.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

I think SPX has a very valid point. Mir has proven he CAN beat good fighters, while GG has not proven that.

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/discussion

I dont care who they both lost too, GG has flat out failed against anyone that resembles a good fighter.

dudes can say what they want about Mir, that he is lucky at the time he fought guys, what about the guys that were lucky to fight him when he was fucked up from the accident? That dont count?

He ripped Sylvias arm off, when that guy was undefeated KO'ing everyone
He beat the shit out of Nog when everyone thought Nog was better at everything than Mir
He beat Lesnar. I dont give a shit how you say the guy wilts under pressure, he was getting the shit beat out of him, and still had enough to [insert generic bjj blackbelt vs whitebelt comment]

If they fought today, he would fuckin wreck Pano, Christianson, and Vera. The dude is a top 10 HW, those other guys aint even ranked.

There it is.

His win against Sylvia is good. His win against nog is ok, Nog isn't really that great anymore. I don't think he will beat many people at this point. Also that was Brocks first fight in the UFC, his only other fight was against a can(min soo kim). Submitting a top control guy with no BJJ exp from the bottom is not really a true showing of skill.

Mir is good but his takedowns are fairly weak. He might be able to get cro cop down but it wont be with great frequency. The standup I would think should go to cro cop but who knows at this point.

I'm sure cro cop will be the dog. Whether or not its worth betting on depends on the line because Cro cop definetly has a chance though I don't like this talk from him about not having enough time. Only 5 weeks? He must have been sitting around eating donuts if that is not enough time to get in shape.
He fought recently though so he should be in decent shape with his striking game fine tuned a bit.

This one is a hard call. Honestly, I think its fairly close to 50/50. I can see either guy winning.

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Cro cop by Decision prop bet on 5dimes will probably be worth while.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir looked exactly the same in the Vera fight as he did in the Hardonk fight, you know, the fight where he was supposedly "back". The difference is one fight he won, the other he got his shit ruined.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir looked exactly the same in the Vera fight as he did in the Hardonk fight, you know, the fight where he was supposedly "back". The difference is one fight he won, the other he got his shit ruined.

Personally, I think Mir came "back" in the Lesnar fight.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir looked exactly the same in the Vera fight as he did in the Hardonk fight, you know, the fight where he was supposedly "back". The difference is one fight he won, the other he got his shit ruined.

Personally, I think Mir came "back" in the Lesnar fight.

Another fight in which he looked exactly the same.

[SPX]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Another fight in which he looked exactly the same.

Are you saying physically or in terms of ability?

And do you think Mir has not shown better striking in the last couple of years than before?

[edman5555]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir did beat Cheick Kongo by dropping him with a punch and then submitting him. CC wasn't able to beat Kongo, however that was his first fight back after than horrible knee injury so that could have affected him.

This is a tough one. Toss up

[Luke]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Personally, I think Mir came "back" in the Lesnar fight.

Mir was about 5 seconds from being stopped until the big dumb animal Lesnar hit him in the back of the head


came back

[SPX]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Mir was about 5 seconds from being stopped until the big dumb animal Lesnar hit him in the back of the head


came back

Let me try to explain to your trogladyte ass. . .

Even if Mir had lost that fight, he was still "back." Bottom line is that Mir has been IN SHAPE and ready to go for a while now. And is now more well-rounded that he's ever been, with not only grappling skills but also striking.

[zY|]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

wtf is that shit under my name? get it off

[SPX]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

wtf is that shit under my name? get it off

It's news to me, too. Apparently you're now a "contributor."

[Luke]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

Let me try to explain to your trogladyte ass. . .

Even if Mir had lost that fight, he was still "back." Bottom line is that Mir has been IN SHAPE and ready to go for a while now. And is now more well-rounded that he's ever been, with not only grappling skills but also striking.

lol you take everything to seriously

So if he's in super Mir shape whens he going to beat a top 10 fighter again?

[zY|]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

wtf is that shit under my name? get it off

It's news to me, too. Apparently you're now a "contributor."

maybe it's a 3500 posts thing

[SPX]

Re: UFC 119 Sept 25th

lol you take everything to seriously

What?

So if he's in super Mir shape whens he going to beat a top 10 fighter again?

The argument isn't about him beating a top 10 fighter; it's about him being better than Gonzaga.