Bellator 24

[Luke]

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I only like betting womens fights that have a wrestler vs someone with zero ground game

[MMA_scientist]

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^^ aren't you worried about a sprawl and brawl decision?

Those chick wrestlers are pretty good.

I'm worried. If I didn't just recently get a good bit ahead then I wouldn't take the risk, but after the last event I'm up about 15u for the year.

I'm just thinking logically here. Megumi's has great takedowns, is being trained by one of the best catch wrestlers in the world, and is just all around way fucking experienced.

She did get submitted by Kyra Gracie, though, in ADCC in 2005:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rLddFuWs0E

It is reflected in the line too... she is -500. The world of female grapplers is small. We have a world champ at my gym that only had to win 1 match to attain the title.

I am just saying, those chick wrestlers are good. I would not be surprised if Fujii can't take her down. But a female judoka is probably a lot closer in takedown skill than the male counterparts (wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

[MMA_scientist]

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I am not saying it is not a smart play... like I said, i know dick about female mma. just giving the counter point like you would do for me.

[SPX]

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(wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

Interesting. I've usually just thought that they get their takedowns in different ways. Guys like Karo, Stun Gun, and Akiyama usually get their guy down, but they do it with a throw or trip, not a shot.

[SPX]

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I am not saying it is not a smart play... like I said, i know dick about female mma. just giving the counter point like you would do for me.

I hear you. We'll see. 2x All-American does sound a little intimidating. But I just have to believe that she will not lose to this girl. It would be a massive upset. Female MMA isn't like men's MMA, so it's not an exact analogy, but Fujii's like the Fedor of women's MMA. At least for Fedor it took a very seasoned vet and BJJ expert.

[zY|]

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Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.

[MMA_scientist]

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(wrestlers > judokas in mma takedowns, it is not even a discussion).

Interesting. I've usually just thought that they get their takedowns in different ways. Guys like Karo, Stun Gun, and Akiyama usually get their guy down, but they do it with a throw or trip, not a shot.

Yeah, they do fine against non wrestlers. But even Diego (who was only a HS wrestler) was taking Karo down. Akiyama gets his takedowns, but equal pedigree, who would win a takedown battle @ MW... Chael or Akiyama? Chael. Same thing witha guy like Karo, I like Karo's style, but he would lose a takedown battle with Koscheck or Fitch.

Judo is an awesome sport, but the rules are too limited.

[poopoo333]

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Is Yves Edwards going to lose again?

[poopoo333]

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Oh, and Carla took this fight on 4 days notice by the way.

[sideloaded]

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Im on Megumi 5u. And a parlay with Hecktor.

[SPX]

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Im on Megumi 5u. And a parlay with Hecktor.

You think there's any chance she loses this fight?

[SPX]

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It won't be easy, but Carla Esparza will have a shot at becoming Bellator Fighting Championships' first female tournament winner.

Bellator officials today announced that Esparza (3-0 MMA, 0-0 BFC) has officially replaced an injured Angela Magana and will face Megumi Fujii (20-0 MMA, 1-0 BFC) in a tourney bout at Thursday's Bellator 24 event.

Bellator 24, which kicks off the organization's 12-week third season, takes place Aug. 12 at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fla., and the main card airs live on FOX Sports Net.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) originally confirmed the change on Monday.

"Angela’s unfortunate injury provides a spectacular opportunity for Carla," Bellator CEO Bjorn Rebney stated in today's release. "The two time All–American wrestler has been working intensively with Team Oyama and now she has the opportunity to shock the world of women's MMA.

"I have great respect for Carla's willingness to step up on short notice to face Megumi Fujii. She comes into this fight with a pure fighters attitude. She's not here to survive, she's coming here to win."

Fujii is widely regarded as the top female fighter on the planet, but Esparza plans on utilizing her extensive collegiate wrestling experience to nullify the Japanese fighter's impressive submission skills.

"I definitely think my wrestling is going to play a huge factor in this fight with Fujii," Esparza stated. "I don't think she's ever encountered a wrestler that has my striking ability. It's not going to be a grappling match. She's going to have to worry about my wrestling and my striking.

"If I wasn't in shape and ready for this fight I wouldn't have taken it. With just three days' notice I'm not going to be as prepared as I'd like to be, but I'm not going in there to survive for three rounds – I'm going in there to win."

[Havis Jr]

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If it's true that megumi has never fought a wrestler like Esparza, I would be a little scared to place a big bet on megumi.

What about Aguilar v Alverez

Anyone like this aguilar chick?? she has 2 wins and a lose over a common opponent that Alverez has lost to, she has more experience and looks to be the 2nd biggest favorite in the tourney besides megumi. She is pretty sick on the ground from what I've seen on youtube.

[SPX]

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Holy shit, Bodog just opened Fujii at -825.

That's a little more what I was expecting across the board.

[SPX]

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Judo is an awesome sport, but the rules are too limited.

I think, if anything, the problem is the gi. If you're looking at judo as a self-contained sport--that is, judo as judo--then it doesn't really matter. The gi is just part of what makes it what it is.

But if we're going to take judo out of its own world, and specifically if we're going to throw it into the gi-less world of MMA, then obviously some techniques are just not going to be valid and others will have to be modified. Once you take the gi off, Judo really isn't too far away from Greco, but with trips.