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Re: Bellator 24
True. But the only flaw in that line of thinking is that you see judo guys getting beat even under their own rule set by bjj and wrestling stylists. I was actually heard a judo ref tell a wrestler to "stand up straight, this is judo." Which is wrong anyway, because the russian style of judo is much lower, similar to wrestling. You also see bjj guys get taken down, not for an ippon and then whip out a guard armbar and its over. As for your MMA analogy, I still favor MMA fighters that have a dominant skill (wrestling, bjj, striking).
But we are in agreement, judo is a well rounded grappling style. There are some judoka out there that are really really good on the ground too, and would give even world class bjj guys problems. Your average judo blackbelt is about mid to low blue belt level on the ground though, IME (this jibes with the common wisdom as well. Similarly, your average blackbelt in bjj is probably somewhere between a white and green belt... Some are really good, and some suck badly at takedowns. Most of the older generation bjj blackbelts are also judo blackbelts though
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But we are in agreement, judo is a well rounded grappling style. There are some judoka out there that are really really good on the ground too, and would give even world class bjj guys problems. Your average judo blackbelt is about mid to low blue belt level on the ground though, IME (this jibes with the common wisdom as well. Similarly, your average blackbelt in bjj is probably somewhere between a white and green belt... Some are really good, and some suck badly at takedowns. Most of the older generation bjj blackbelts are also judo blackbelts though
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