WEC 51

[MMA_scientist]

Time to quit pouting about 119 /Shark Fights and starrt whupping some ass again.



Jose Aldo (No. 1 FW, No. 3 PFP) vs. Manny Gamburyan (No. 2 FW)

Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres (No. 5 BW) vs. Charlie Valencia
Leonard Garcia vs. Mark Hominick
Mike Thomas Brown (No. 3 FW) vs. Cole Province
Chris Horodecki vs. Ed Ratcliff
Chan Sung Jung vs. George Roop
Diego Nunes (No. 10 FW) vs. Tyler Toner
Antonio Banuelos vs. Chad George
Tie Quan Zhang vs. Pablo Garza
Nick Pace vs. Demetrious Johnson

Hominick could get a good line and has a style to give Garcia's brawling some problems. Valencia is a really strong wrestler who has only lost to really good guys. He will rightly be a big dog, but I think he has a chance. Nunes/Toner is intersting too.

gimme some ideas

[poopoo333]

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I was thinking Hominick as well. I also think Banuelos will beat George.

[MMA_scientist]

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Banuelos has had trouble with other wrestlers. He has good power in his hands though... I think that fight comes down to striking.

[SPX]

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I think Torres is going to whip Valencia's ass.

I also think KZ will beat Roop.

[edman5555]

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I agree with KZ. I have always thought Roop sucks.

[MMA_scientist]

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KZ should win easy, and I think it will be reflected in his line.

I think Valencia could surprise Torres. Torres is going to be working off his back, and although he has shown a really good submission game, I think Valencia might be worth a bet if he is a big dog.

[SPX]

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KZ should win easy, and I think it will be reflected in his line.

What do you think the line will be? I was thinking KZ at -170 or so, at least to kick things off.

I think Valencia could surprise Torres. Torres is going to be working off his back, and although he has shown a really good submission game, I think Valencia might be worth a bet if he is a big dog.

For me, he'd have to be a BIG dog. I've never been a big Torres fan and have always thought he was a little overrated--which he was--but he was still a seeming unstoppable force for forever and I don't think Valencia will be able to beat him. Maybe I'll change my tune after I re-watch some fights.

[Havis Jr]

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I like cole's chances as a dog. Varner should win also.

[poopoo333]

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Varner/Cerrone....discuss?

[Havis Jr]

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I didn't think the fight was really that close the first time. Cerrone has good kicks, but his hands aren't as good as varner's and if cerrone goes for kicks he is going to end up on his back for most of the fight.

[MMA_scientist]

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I like Varner also. I think he has a more clear path to victory and more ways to win.

SPX, I forgot that Roop fought Garcia to a draw. I think you are probably about right. Without that fight, I would have said liek -250 or so...

[Luke]

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Lines have been added

[SPX]

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Goddamn it!

KZ a lot higher than I was hoping for. Torres, too.

[SPX]

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What are the odds on Roop-via-KO? Probably astronomical.

[MMA_scientist]

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underdogs ftw? wtf is up with these lines? Roop has value. Didn't he just fight a close fight with Garcia? My MMATH tells me that KZ just also fought a close fight with Garcia, therefore Roop should not be a 3:1 dog.

I thought Hominick would be close to even, maybe even open as a dog. Going to have to disagree with that Torres line as well- he will probably win, but that line has him in absolute lock territory. Mike Brown just got knocked out by Manvil- unranked and unheralded prior to the fight, wtf is he doing @ -450 against a legit opponent?