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  • trotterz
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 450

    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    Is he the better striker? Tehuna has the best win between them (Igor). I agree Gustaffson looks like he has done work on his wrestling, just don't know how much of a factor it will be

    I agree he is a favorite, but I don't think he is worth -275
    Gustafsson is really underrated, he as always been pretty much under the radar. IMO I was expecting him to come out at around -150 -175 .... but I still see enough value in him to bet big even at -275

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    • poopoo333
      MMA *********
      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      Originally posted by MMA_scientist
      Is he the better striker?
      I hope, he is my anchor bet

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      • Ludo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 4931

        Lots of money to be made here at 127.
        2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
        Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
        Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
        Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

        2012: +20.311u

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        • poopoo333
          MMA *********
          • Jan 2010
          • 18302

          Originally posted by LudoCain
          Lots of money to be made here at 127.
          Who are you taking, Jay?

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          • edman5555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 6628

            Originally posted by LudoCain
            Lots of money to be made here at 127.
            Any added info?
            1 unit = 300 $

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            • Ludo
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4931

              Originally posted by poopoo333
              Who are you taking, Jay?
              I've got BJ Penn, Kyle Noke, Ross Pearson, Nick Ring, and a value bet on Jorge Rivera.
              2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
              Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
              Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
              Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

              2012: +20.311u

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              • SPX
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 23875

                Originally posted by LudoCain
                I've got BJ Penn, Kyle Noke, Ross Pearson, Nick Ring, and a value bet on Jorge Rivera.
                I'm not sure I'd consider any of those to be certainties.
                I heart cock

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                • Ludo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4931

                  Originally posted by edman5555
                  Any added info?

                  Well I think Spencer Fisher is in over his head. Pearson is young, he's quick, and he has crisp hands. His last fight may have been a result of him overlooking his opponent's abilities standing and or all around. However it's only because of that loss that his line as what it is right now I think. Should still be a good scrap. Spencer is game.

                  I was looking at Perosh but his striking is pretty horrendous so I backed off.

                  Ring should be able to outgrapple Fukuda and ground him enroute to a decision. Fukuda isn't exactly a submission whiz so we'll see if Rings wrestling can get him through to the finish.

                  Chris Camozzi sucks.

                  Brian Ebersole while tough and larger than Lytle will probably get his ass handed to him one way or another.
                  2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                  Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                  Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                  Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                  2012: +20.311u

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                  • Ludo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4931

                    Originally posted by SPX
                    I'm not sure I'd consider any of those to be certainties.
                    Nothing is ever a certainty, and I didn't say they were. I just said there is lots of money to be made here. The lines are relatively good as opposed to some cards where all the guys you'd want to bet are huge favorites and shit.
                    2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                    Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                    Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                    Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                    2012: +20.311u

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                    • poopoo333
                      MMA *********
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 18302

                      I like all your plays Ludo except Nick Ring. I hope he pulls off the win for you though. I really think Fitch is going to win this fight, but for some reason my gut is telling me BJ. I am just going to stay away from this fight and enjoy.

                      Right now I am on Pearson, Gustafsson, and Sotiropolous. I also have a bet on Bisping by submission @+1400...I thought this was a great deal, I think Bisping is going to take Rivera down in this fight tbh. At first look I liked Kyle Noke as well but I didn't look too much into it. I might look at it later to see if Chris Camozzi does indeed suck that bad.

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                      • MMA_scientist
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 9857

                        I am basically going to a 5u system for the year. I am going to double my bankroll up in 2011 or go down in flames. Basically, I am going to lay down 10u on each play, and parlay i until I clear 10u. Then take it down, re-divide and go. I am still going to make straight plays too, but they will be small. That's how I roll in 2011.

                        I was reading an investing book in B&N last night, and basically when the probability of success is higher, I need to be risking more.

                        10u to win a measly .83u on "not siver by submission/not rivera by submission/not fitch by submission". Prepare to witness the power of compounding.

                        Basically, only playing absolute locks in this thing, just like the failed never ending locks parlay (which really never failed, it lost because I used the bankroll on a non-lock in a moment of heated desperation).
                        2012: +19.33
                        2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          I don't know about those parlays Scientist. 10u to win .83u? I just calculated that out, you have to win 12 times to win 10u. If you lose 1 in 13 your total profit is .83u. Thats a lot to risk on so many different things not happening. I feel like that will fall through at some point. Maybe you could try juicing up your normal picks with those parlays. That will increase your payout for those by a lot more.
                          1 unit = 300 $

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                          • edman5555
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 6628

                            Like for instance. 10u on bisping + all those parlays you made. Then you would have 13.5u or so going into your parlays instead of 10u. Pretty fancy.
                            1 unit = 300 $

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                            • trotterz
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 450

                              Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                              I am basically going to a 5u system for the year. I am going to double my bankroll up in 2011 or go down in flames. Basically, I am going to lay down 10u on each play, and parlay i until I clear 10u. Then take it down, re-divide and go. I am still going to make straight plays too, but they will be small. That's how I roll in 2011.

                              I was reading an investing book in B&N last night, and basically when the probability of success is higher, I need to be risking more.

                              10u to win a measly .83u on "not siver by submission/not rivera by submission/not fitch by submission". Prepare to witness the power of compounding.

                              Basically, only playing absolute locks in this thing, just like the failed never ending locks parlay (which really never failed, it lost because I used the bankroll on a non-lock in a moment of heated desperation).
                              Not a fan of that kind or parlays either. The problem with ''not fighter X by submission'' is that anybody could win by submission. Even if a fighter A is knocking out a fighter B, and the fighter B fall on his knees, then the first fighter jump on the back and lock a rear naked choke and the end result will be submission. I have seen that SO OFTEN. Another thing that could happend is crap like dos santos vs cro cop. cro cop could see anymore because of punches to the eye: end result (submission (punches). shit like that could scrap up your parlay

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                              • MMA_scientist
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 9857

                                I don't think any of those things would happen 1 in 50 times, much less 1 in 13. I understand that it is a lot of of risk for little reward... but it will add up. I am trying to not think about individual events. So the parlay will just keep going next time, where I will bet 10.83u, maybe next time I clear 2u, then 3 and then 4 and I start over after I double it (10u). The key is to not get wild and try to make it happen too fast, that is what I did last time. I am only betting things that I feel have actual value and are very very unlikely to lose. I am still going to lose sometimes (like I probably would have bet "not Forrest to sub Shogun" for example), but I think I can find the value and chip away if I narrow down the variables.

                                We'll see what happens. It won't be the first time I have been wrong. But I am doing it.
                                2012: +19.33
                                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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