UFC on Versus 3 March 3rd

[SPX]

Also I've heard people complain about that decision too so someone please tell me what 2 rounds Kampmann possibly won in that fight?

I'd need to watch it again, but I remember Kampmann landed the only strikes and also had more sub attempts. I'll try to check it out again when I get some time, though.

For what it's worth, Junkie gave the fight to Shields but only 29-28 giving Shields the third round. Sherdog also gave Shields the fight (except for TJ DeSantis, who scored it a draw), but scored the second round for Kampmann. So apparently both the 2nd and 3rd were close enough that some scored it for Kamp and some for Shields.

Does anyone remember whos the last person to secure takedowns on GSP? I'd like to watch those fights if they were too long ago

Maybe Hughes?

[Luke]

Good info but still too much work for me lol. I was just hoping someone could tell me off memory. It has to be Fitch or Penn


Edit: or Hughes

[Mr. IWS]

Does anyone remember whos the last person to secure takedowns on GSP? I'd like to watch those fights if they were too long ago

Kos got him down, but couldnt hold him there. Other than that, maybe Hughes.

[Mr. IWS]

The more I think about it......

IIRC, in the first Kos/GSP fight, Kos got him down a bit in round 1, enough to win the round. Kos got a takedown in the 2nd fight, but GSP got right up.

[Luke]

I'd need to watch it again, but I remember Kampmann landed the only strikes and also had more sub attempts. I'll try to check it out again when I get some time, though.

For what it's worth, Junkie gave the fight to Shields but only 29-28 giving Shields the third round. Sherdog also gave Shields the fight (except for TJ DeSantis, who scored it a draw), but scored the second round for Kampmann. So apparently both the 2nd and 3rd were close enough that some scored it for Kamp and some for Shields.

Make sure and watch it with the sound off .I can see how Kampmann got rd 3 but not rd 2 or 1


Also I think the only round Kampmann outstruck Shields was rd3 ,I know it was close enough I couldnt tell who outstruck who in rd 2

[SPX]

I never can figure out why Shields is so hard to stuff. He always looks so fucking slow to me.

[Luke]

The more I think about it......

IIRC, in the first Kos/GSP fight, Kos got him down a bit in round 1, enough to win the round. Kos got a takedown in the 2nd fight, but GSP got right up.

I'm just trying to figure out what Shields can do against GSP. I think Shields wrestling is better than KOS's .

[SPX]

Here's the round 2 PBP from Sherdog, so this is at least why they scored it for Kamp:

Kampmann landing pattering combinations to open, then throws a leg kick which is checked. Shields changes levels and Kampmann sprawls. Shields tries to bully Kampmann against the cage, and Kampmann brings Shields to his knees with a hard knee. Kampmann snares what looks to be a tight guillotine, but Shields is unperturbed and presses forward. Kampmann pops back to his feet, lands some knees to the body from the Thai plum which cause Shields -- now bleeding from his nose -- to give an exasperated glance at the clock. Shields gets Kampmann down, while being warned by McCarthy not to grab his opponent’s shorts, and takes mount. Kampmann stuffs him back, Shields mounts again, and once more Kampmann bucks free. Back on the feet, they clinch against the cage and “Big John” restarts them. As the round ends, McCarthy warns Shields that he’ll deduct a point next time he grabs Kampmann’s trunks.

[Luke]

I never can figure out why Shields is so hard to stuff. He always looks so fucking slow to me.

His damn tech is just so good. Even if he gets stuffed he just powers through it or drops down and latches to your legs like an octopus.


I need to stop ,I'm talking about wrestling like MMAscientist would BJJ

[SPX]

I'm just trying to figure out what Shields can do against GSP. I think Shields wrestling is better than KOS's .

I remember Shields almost got choked out by Mayhem. It looked to me like if he hadn't gotten saved by the bell then he was about to lose that fight. So in my view, if Mayhem can get Shield's back then GSP will be able to do whatever is necessary to either keep the fight on the feet or achieve advantageous positions on the ground.

[Luke]

Here's the round 2 PBP from Sherdog, so this is at least why they scored it for Kamp:

Then must have watched a different 2nd round than I just saw..........

First minute of the round striking is even, then Kampann tries a guillotine attempt that he only has because Shields is shooting and Shields quickly gets out of it. Shields then secures the TD .Kampmann tries another half assed guillontine that Shields quickly pops out of . After Kampmann gets back to his feet he lands a few punches and then is taken down again ,Kampmann spends 2 minutes on his back this time before getting back to his feet. 45 seconds left in the rd ,each fighter throws a few punches and kicks rd over.

I'm telling you the striking was even in the round .Shields had 2 takedowns and mount ,one takedown and mount lasted 2 minutes of the round . Kampmann did have two submission attempts but they were really weak imo


Thats how I saw it but let me know what you think

[Luke]

I remember Shields almost got choked out by Mayhem. It looked to me like if he hadn't gotten saved by the bell then he was about to lose that fight. So in my view, if Mayhem can get Shield's back then GSP will be able to do whatever is necessary to either keep the fight on the feet or achieve advantageous positions on the ground.

I guess I need to watch that fight

[SPX]

I guess I need to watch that fight

Pretty good fight. Shields was in control most of the time, but Mayhem had his moments.

Give it a look and give us your assessment.

[Luke]

Pretty good fight. Shields was in control most of the time, but Mayhem had his moments.

Give it a look and give us your assessment.

It'll probably take me a month to find it lol.

Where's poopoo when you need him? I can watch it right now

I fell a sleep when I got home today so I didnt go see Adjustment Burea .......sigh . Maybe i'll go watch it tomorrow or Sunday


Also before anyone thinks I'm losing my marbles I dont think Shields is going to win but I do think its going to be closer than everyone else does.

[SPX]

It'll probably take me a month to find it lol.

Nigga, something tells me you didn't look very hard.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjA4ODE1ODI0.html