Strikeforce's 2011 Heavyweight Grand-Prix

[poopoo333]

doesnt that big dumb animal know they are on the same side of the bracket?

lulz I saw that earlier and was like "lol que?"

[Luke]

lulz I saw that earlier and was like "lol que?"

Not only does Silva not know it MMAjunkie doesnt either because they reported it

MMA source of the year ....................pssssssshhhhhhh

[MMA_scientist]

Fedor was on top for 10 years... He is the greatest fighter of all time at this point. But no one reigns forever. I swear I saw some relief on his face, like a little smile that said "I am finally free."

Anyway, I don't think SF considered the fact that every HW fight was going to end in the first round. They really need to get the ability to adjust on the fly during the broadcast like the UFC does.

I was sad to see Fedor go out like that to Bigfoot... but time marches on. Poor SF, they can't win. They pay out the rear for Fedor, agree to co-promote with M1, and then Fedor goes out and loses twice in a row and then retires. They better hope upon hope that Overeem beats Werdum.

[edman5555]

Fedor still has a contract with Strikeforce for more fights. He can't retire just yet.

[edman5555]

If Overeem beats Werdum I will go heavy on OVereem over Bigfoot.

[poopoo333]

If Overeem beats Werdum I will go heavy on OVereem over Bigfoot.

Not me.

[zY|]

Yeah. I think Bigfoot has a better chance against him than Werdum does. But I think Overeem beats both of them.

[edman5555]

Oh yeah? I consider Werdum more of a threat due to his ground game being at such a high level.

[MMA_scientist]

Bigfoot has better standup than Werdum though, and it looks like he has resolved his gas issues. Bigfoot sort of kicked Werdum's ass in round 1 of their fight, he gassed and Werdum started taking him down in round 2. I actually think Bigfoot will beat Werdum in a rematch.

I am still not convinced that Overeem is that good, personally. He hasn't beaten anyone very good to earn all his hype.

[SPX]

Stop with that Dana white we've got the best fighters and always had rhetoric. The best fighters WERE in pride when Fedor was beating them all up. Who was he supposed to fight that was better? Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski? Oh wait.

Who were the best the world had to offer then? Sylvia , AA and Mir ? Are you saying those 3 were better than Fedor, Cro Cop and Barnett

Not to mention a PRIDE fighter is the current UFC Lt HW champ


PRIDE did have the best in the world at HW and Lt HW at that time.

Okay, fine.

Well maybe I'll put it this way:

The HW division as a whole just wasn't very good then.

[SPX]

Anyway, I don't think SF considered the fact that every HW fight was going to end in the first round. They really need to get the ability to adjust on the fly during the broadcast like the UFC does.

What do you mean?

[zY|]

Oh yeah? I consider Werdum more of a threat due to his ground game being at such a high level.

He is but I just don't see how he gets it there. He gets his takedowns from the clinch and Overeem will knee his liver out his back in the clinch.

[edman5555]

I feel like Overeems standup will be the big issue. Maybe I am wrong. It depends a lot on his takedown defense I guess.

[edman5555]

He is but I just don't see how he gets it there. He gets his takedowns from the clinch and Overeem will knee his liver out his back in the clinch.

Yeah he will probably have trouble getting it there but IF he does he can end the fight there. Bigfoot isn't nearly as deadly on the ground as werdum so I am not too worried that if he takes Overeem down he is going to sub him. That's what it comes down to for me. They both lose the standup to Overeem but only one has a huge advantage on the ground.

[edman5555]

Though Bigfoot might have better takedowns. I don't know. Overeem is still a wild card in a lot of ways because like you said, he has been beating cans for a while.