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  • SPX
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 23875

    Honestly, I'm wondering what Shogun's doing on there. He's great, but I don't see him as being a P4P kind of guy with performances like his most recent fight with Coleman and getting choked out by Forrest. That's not to say that you can't lose and still be considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport, but the low points in his career have been pretty damn low.
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    • Luke
      10 year vet
      • Oct 2006
      • 30060

      Originally posted by SPX
      Honestly, I'm wondering what Shogun's doing on there. He's great, but I don't see him as being a P4P kind of guy with performances like his most recent fight with Coleman and getting choked out by Forrest. That's not to say that you can't lose and still be considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport, but the low points in his career have been pretty damn low.

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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        Originally posted by Luke
        Oh noes ........Zy's going to be all over your ass
        I know. I'm waiting for it.
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        • zY|
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 8385

          Originally posted by SPX
          Honestly, I'm wondering what Shogun's doing on there. He's great, but I don't see him as being a P4P kind of guy with performances like his most recent fight with Coleman and getting choked out by Forrest. That's not to say that you can't lose and still be considered one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the sport, but the low points in his career have been pretty damn low.
          I'd have him lower on the list for sure. Jon Jones has no business being on there at all. Who has he ever beaten? Ryan Bader? Cain shouldn't be on there, either. No heavyweight should really, unless they've won for 10 years like Fedor had. I'd probably put Rashad in there. His only loss is to Machida, and he has quite a few good wins. No Fitch on the list is fail, draw to BJ or no.

          Edgar has better wins than Maynard, despite the head to head. Both should be higher than Aldo and Cruz. The LW division is by far the most competitive, and the BW and FW divisions are still so young.
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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            I think that Cruz's greatest claim to any sort of P4P fame is that he has successfully competed at both FW and BW, losing only to Faber. Whether that's enough, I don't know.

            Aldo also needs to do more before he makes the list. Let him take some fights at LW. If he were to do some crazy shit like hold both titles at once then yes, definitely put him on the P4P list.
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            • edman5555
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 6628

              I think Lyoto Machida should be on there. He lost a shitty decision to Rampage, that should of been a draw in my opinion. Outside of that he has one loss to Shogun. He beat Bonnar, Rich Franklin, BJ PENN, Sokodjou, Tito ortiz, Thiago Silva, Rashad Evans, and Shogun (you could say a bad dec there as well.) Really in my mind the only guy to ever beat Machida is Shogun. He should be top 10.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                Cain and Jon both have the skill to be in the top 10, they just haven't had enough fights to prove it yet.
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                • Luke
                  10 year vet
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30060

                  someone explain how Aldo is even on the list let own number 3

                  He beat Mike Brown , Brown is 2-4 in his last 6 fights

                  he beat Faber ,Faber is 3-3 in his last 6

                  he beat Gamburyan, Gamburyan is 3-3 in his last 6

                  combined record of his last 3 opponents in their last 18 fights 8-10........


                  Not really number 3 P4P wins imo
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                  • zY|
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 8385

                    ^^boxing logic
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                    • Luke
                      10 year vet
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 30060

                      Originally posted by zY|
                      ^^boxing logic
                      So I should use you way ,retard logic?


                      If you think beating 3 guys with a 8-10 record in their last 18 fights makes you the number 3 P4P fighter in the world I guess Phil Davis and JDS should be 1 and 2 then


                      Of course someone at sherdog probably told you that makes sense so..........
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                      • zY|
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 8385

                        You're right as usual.
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                        • Luke
                          10 year vet
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 30060

                          Originally posted by zY|
                          You're right as usual.

                          Well I gave my side and all you've responded with is "boxing logic" and "you're right as usual"

                          Thats not really much of a counter arguement

                          I'm open to listening but if thats all the input you got I dont know what to say
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                          • zY|
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 8385

                            Hey I know you just learned how to read and you're catching up to speed, but I essentially said the same thing above you. I'm just giving you shit and it's funny how mad you're getting.
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                            • Luke
                              10 year vet
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 30060

                              Originally posted by zY|
                              Hey I know you just learned how to read and you're catching up to speed, but I essentially said the same thing above you. I'm just giving you shit and it's funny how mad you're getting.

                              LOL you thought I was mad . You dont know how funny that is because I just texted SPX not too long ago and told him I thought I pissed you off .

                              LOL I wasnt mad I could careless about P4P rankings
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                              • SPX
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 23875

                                Originally posted by Luke
                                I just texted SPX not too long ago and told him I thought I pissed you off .
                                It's true.
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