UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[zY|]

oh cool. A rematch from the bullshit dq hamill beat davis with last time.

I hope davis doesnt do any illegal shit this time.

lol <3

[Thewisemann]

55u to win 10u on GSP. Thats what my bet will be.

[poopoo333]

55u to win 10u on GSP. Thats what my bet will be.

Holy shit balls

[Svino]

I don't know about 55u, but I also think GSP is a solid bet at -550.

[Luke]

Sounds like good money management .

[edman5555]

Gsp should win easily. I think he will tko Shields.

[Mr. IWS]

Gsp should win easily. I think he will tko Shields.

Thats my thoughts as well. But...................

GSP hasn't TKO'd anyone since Jay Heiron it seems like.

Either way, I think GSP will outclass the bum.

[edman5555]

Yeah my reasoning is that Shields has almost no standup ability. I think GSP's wrestling will force a standup fight. It will be a lot easier for GSP to lay into shields if he doesn't have to worry about his punches very much(like he did with Koscheck)

[Svino]

Shields is a great fighter. Still underrated, I think. But this is an impossible matchup for him? How can he win?

1) Lucky punch? No, I think this option is pretty much out.
2) Defy people's expectations and take down GSP repeatedly despite his wrestling? As with Hendo? No, can't see that happening here either.
3) GSP also has very good stamina, so Shields won't be getting any kind of "cardio victory", especially after his last WW performance.
4) Catching a submission if GSP gets careless, maybe like Werdum did on Fedor, is a small possibility.
5) Wall-and-stall win against the fence? Also extremely unlikely.

I'm just finding it very hard to put Shields' chances at better than a few percent.

[edman5555]

Yeah he is getting the title shot because he was the strikeforce champ and does have a great record. Unfortunately his record is good because he outwrestles/grapples people. I also have to wonder how he will be in the 4th and 5th rounds. We shouldn't sell him short on his wrestling though, he did beat Yushin Okami with it though it wasn't pretty.

[Luke]

^^^^^^^^Are you forgetting Shields just went 5 rounds with Hendo,a 205 pounder? Shields looked gassed in his last fight due to the weight cut imo. This time the weight cut should go easier so he shouldnt have any problems with gassing

[MMA_scientist]

I agree it seems like a terrible style matchup for Shields. The one thing I will say is that Shields does not give up on that takedown. He just goes and goes until he gets it, or he stays on the fence. But his hands are also the worst of any fighter GSP has faced (ever, I think). GSP did give up a couple takedowns to Koscheck.

GSP should win, it is almost a foregone conclusion that he will sprawl and eventually KO him. But at -550, I don't know... that is a lot to pay against a top 5 guy in Shields. But on paper, I really don't see how Shields can win.

[zY|]

I think GSP is going to make Shields look terrible. Awkward, tremendously slow. He'll probably end up either knocked out or with a mashed up face and repeatedly falling to his back ala Thales Leites and getting booed.

[MMA_scientist]

^^ Shields' guard is not very good. I don't think GSP is going to be scurred to get on top of him. I hoenstly wouldn't be shocked to see GSP going for some takedowns. I think GSP will beat him on the mat too. Shields is good, but really only from top. He doesn't have a dangerous guard, IMO.

Shields HAS to get on top to win... but I have heard that GSP's guard is actually really good.

[edman5555]

I think its unlikely that shields can sub George. Unless he can keep it on the ground for a long time. Which I don't think he can. And he isn't triangling George.