UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[Vandelay]

I at least agree that anything can happen. Why do you feel that Machida has the least chance of losing?

Machida is very good at defending takedowns and Randy poses no threat to him standing, at all. I dont believe he get wall and stalled again. Machida should be hungry for the win, randy hasn't been training full time, his chin sucks, and machida should have a counter if machida try's to clinch the whole time.

[poopoo333]

Jose Aldo by sub @+1050 looks good to me

[Vandelay]

1 unit to win .495 units on not shields inside distance, not couture itd, not hominick by sub, amir khan, manny pacquiao

[poopoo333]

1 unit to win .495 units on not shields inside distance, not couture itd, not hominick by sub, amir khan, manny pacquiao

I am thinking about jumping on this prop parlay bandwagon.

[Vandelay]

I'm not even sure which one has the most chance of ruining my parlay. I'd probably say shields catching a sub and amir khan losing

[zY|]

Yeah I think Shield by sub is his only shot at winning. He's not winning a decision.

[Vandelay]

Well lets see. Shields is more about positional control and hasnt really needed to go all out for a sub before. Gsp probably will not be shooting at all in this fight and GSP would need to get to side-control, back mount or mount to get a sub on GSP and i'm sure GSP would know how to avoid a submission in those positions. Now I think Shields can lay and pray for 3 or 4 rounds on his way to a decision.

[Luke]

. Now I think Shields can lay and pray for 3 or 4 rounds on his way to a decision.

InB4spxSAYSthatsNOTpossible

[zY|]

Nah I think his chance is to catch a guillotine or something like that if he's on top and GSP tries to scramble. I'd be super surprised if he can hold position on GSP, and the thought of him taking GSP down much less holding him there for 3 rounds is laughable to me.

[poopoo333]

What if Shields spends the majority of the time going for the takedown against the fence with GSP stuffing it? From what we have seen, that usually gets the aggressor the round.

[Thewisemann]

That's pretty much how I see it.

[zY|]

What if Shields spends the majority of the time going for the takedown against the fence with GSP stuffing it? From what we have seen, that usually gets the aggressor the round.

I would imagine he's getting punched in the head the whole time.

[Thewisemann]

If kampmann wasn't such an idiot, then he would have finished shields and we wouldnt be having this conversation.

[SPX]

If kampmann wasn't such an idiot, then he would have finished shields and we wouldnt be having this conversation.

I agree. Kampmann arguably won that fight anyway.

[Thewisemann]

sshields couldn't take Lawler down, and he couldn't sub mayhem, hendo or kampmann. he isn't takin gsp down or rubbing him. I think he gasses and gets finished.