UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[Luke]

Well shit nigga, I've been trying to be fair here. I said it could be true. But I also feel like I gave some good reasons about why you have to remain cautious.

I mean, if we end up not agreeing with you we're "rocks?"

I didnt mean you were rocks .....I meant it was like talking to a rock

You believe a lot of BS I never would

[SPX]

You believe a lot of BS I never would

LOL

Like what?

[Luke]

LOL

Like what?

Just about everything that comes out of Dana's mouth

[zY|]

I have gone back and forth over this so many times. I think GSP wins but Shields win over Dan Henderson gives me a little pause. That was impressive.

Not getting knocked out from the shots he took was impressive. Beating him like he did was definitely impressive too, but Dan's gameplan was pretty bad. He tried to do nothing other than throw haymakers which just leaves him wide open to being taken down. Henderson, despite his credentials, has always had pretty poor defensive wrestling simply from overextending himself. He gets taken down all the time by non-wrestlers. Hell, he was taken down by Ninja Rua. GSP will be orders of magnitude harder to take down like that.

[Luke]

Not getting knocked out from the shots he took was impressive. Beating him like he did was definitely impressive too, but Dan's gameplan was pretty bad. He tried to do nothing other than throw haymakers which just leaves him wide open to being taken down. Henderson, despite his credentials, has always had pretty poor defensive wrestling simply from overextending himself. He gets taken down all the time by non-wrestlers. Hell, he was taken down by Ninja Rua. GSP will be orders of magnitude harder to take down like that.

So you're all in on the GSP-Machida-ALdo parlay too?

[zY|]

So you're all in on the GSP-Machida-ALdo parlay too?

No. I think they'll all win. But the odds of one of them losing is probably better than what you'd get on that parlay. Similar to last year's GSP/Penn/Silva unbeatable parlay.

I think a better question is, yumadtho?

[Luke]

I think a better question is, yumadtho?

lol why would I be mad ? I'm not going to lose my ass if the magic parlay doesnt hit . I have so little on Shields I wont even blink if he loses

[Luke]

No. I think they'll all win. But the odds of one of them losing is probably better than what you'd get on that parlay.

I do agree with this though .

[Thewisemann]

I am most worried about Aldo.

[Vandelay]

mmascientist most of the props are out now. Anything you like? I kinda like not pierson by sub (-2300), not matyushenko by sub (-1790), not macdonald itd (-575), not shields itd (-865), not couture itd (-1571), not henderson by sub (-565), and not hominick by sub (-2750). Out of those odds I like the not henderson by sub one the most.

[SPX]

Odds-wise, obviously Not Bendo by sub is the best. But if Mac Danzig can sub Bocek, Henderson can certainly do it. That doesn't mean he will, but it wouldn't be a huge shock.

[Vandelay]

Forgot about the Danzig sub. I was only thinkin how he subbed the skinny guy and avoided being subbed by miller.

[poopoo333]

If it's a high paced fight, I could see Henderson subbing Bocek in round 3 after Bocek probably gasses. That is how Danzig got the sub on Bocek

[SPX]

Forgot about the Danzig sub. I was only thinkin how he subbed the skinny guy and avoided being subbed by miller.

I was like, "Who the fuck is the skinny guy?"

Then I remembered. Hazelett. That WAS a nice sub.

[Ludo]

The problem here with Henderson subbing Bocek is that Bendo doesn't actively look for subs. He's more into top control and ground and pound. He usually goes for the sub if it's sticking out at him or right after he gets the shit kicked out of him for like 8 minutes and nobody expects it. He's not some sub happy wrestler though. He's probably going to look to pound Bocek out long before he looks to submit him.