UFC 129 toronto GSP-Shields

[Luke]

I'd rather see Shields fight Silva, actually.

So would I . I have no clue why they made him go to 170 when he came to the UFC

[poopoo333]

I'd rather see Shields fight Silva, actually.

Me too. And I would have bet Shields for sure

[SPX]

This reminds me of Silva -Belfort right after fight

That was personal. This is just business.

I don't hate Jake. And I don't particularly like GSP. I'd actually like to see GSP lose. I wish Hardy had done it. But this isn't the time and Shields isn't the guy.

Also, I have 5u on GSP, so. . .

[zY|]

Me too. And I would have bet Shields for sure

Would you?

I'd say he's got a better shot at beating Silva than GSP, but his striking is so otherworldly horrible I can't see how he's going to set up his takedowns. Running forward with his chin out like Joe Warren is going to get him obliterated.

[Ludo]

I just rewatched Ellenberger vs Howard and Rocha. I can confidently say Ellenberger should win this fight. He had a good gas tank in the Howard fight. He got hurt about 3 times by Howard and still looked fresh in round three even after alot of clinching and fighting through the stall tactics on the ground. I don't think Pierson is going to slap on a sub since Pierson seems to really like butterfly guard from the bottom which is really only going to help him get up to his feet. Ellenberger is a better all around fighter than Riddle, and he mixes his takedowns and strikes very well and should be able to get Pierson down easier than Riddle was able to. Standing Pierson has power but so does Ellenberger but it may not matter much after round two if it goes that far. I can see this one going to a decision but I just don't think Pierson will win this fight. I'm betting Ellenberger here.

[SPX]

I agree that, from what I know of Pierson, Ellenberger should win. I also agree that, generally speaking, Ellenberger has a decent gas tank.

What I don't get with Ellenberger is that he hit the scene hard and had awesome performances against Condit and Pyle. But since then he has just kind of squeaked by. Not sure why, though.

[Vandelay]

Hominick vs. Aldo

Hominick is a pretty good striker. Not very powerful, but great technique. His left hand is where the majority of his offense comes from whereas his right hand isn't nearly as powerful or accurate. He is also pretty good defensively as well. Good chin and almost always keeps his hand up. One weakness he does have standing is his reluctance to check leg kicks. One other thing that Hominick does well is he always pushes the pace. He makes you fight back or retreat and rarely gets tired. I actually think he is similar to Nick Diaz. Aldo is also very good defensively. He has phenomenal leg kicks and average hands (great power in his hands though). Ground game is a big question mark. Hominick seems competent on the ground and I doubt he could sub Aldo. I havent seen much of Aldo's ground game at all. Hominick isnt great at stuffing takedowns either. I think the -400 line is way overpriced and the value is on Hominick. Especially in Canada.

[zY|]

Hominick had a competitive fight with Leonard Garcia.

[Vandelay]

I dont think that fight was competitive at all. Hominick picked him apart, stuffed his takedowns, and blocked/slipped probably 80 percent of his strikes. I had it 30 27 and whatever judge had it 29 28 garcia is pathetic. Winning a decision against Garcia is impressive though.

[zY|]

Just because it was 30-27 doesn't mean it wasn't competitive. Anyway nigga, I'm just sayin.

[SPX]

Hominick beat the shit out of Garcia. Considering that Garcia is extraordinarily hard to finish I thought his performance was pretty dominant.

[Vandelay]

Maybe we have different views on the word competitive. Hominick wasnt in trouble at any point in the fight, won all three rounds, and didn't tire at all. In your opinion, was the Aldo Faber fight competitive because Aldo didnt win every round and didnt get the finish?

[Vandelay]

Now I think the Hominick Jabouin fight was competitive. Hominick was dropped, hit with solid shots, and arguably lost the first round. His pace eventually wore on Jabouin and he won because Jabouin couldn't keep up

[zY|]

Hominick beat the shit out of Garcia. Considering that Garcia is extraordinarily hard to finish I thought his performance was pretty dominant.

Actually, good fighters finish Garcia. Mike Brown blew his brains out in the first round.

Aldo-Faber I don't think is a good comparison. That was a blowout and only went to decision because Aldo let up. I'm thinking more along the lines of Nam Phan/Garcia. Phan won all 3 rounds but it was still a competitive fight.

Although it's possible I'm just remembering the fight wrong entirely.

[Thewisemann]

I think Aldo is going to submit him.