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  • Thewisemann
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    If I had a bankroll, these would be my bets,
    Hamil .5u to win 1.25u
    Alves 4.2u to win 2u
    Grove 3u to win 2u
    Torres 1.3u to win 1u
    Stann 1u to win 1.15u
    Tibau 3.35u to we in 1u
    I would be looking to hedge on Hamil. Make these bets and you will be +.

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  • edman5555
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    yes but when you are severly dehydrahted it makes it harder to resist a takedown because you don't have as much strength.

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  • poopoo333
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    Yeah alves making weight doesn't make him a better wrestler. He is better with his diet now not wrestling

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  • edman5555
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    Thiago barely made weight for the Fitch fight. I think it contributed to his poor performance. It was actually the reason I bet Fitch by Dec. Regardless, Story does have a chance though. I still may bet Alves.

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  • Thewisemann
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    Boetsch is gonna get handled. Grove is a great bet.

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  • Ludo
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    Thats what I was getting at. Boetsch is nowhere near as good with the ground and pound or with the reversals on the ground as Munoz is. I have this image in My head of Boetsch chasing Kendall around the octagon all fight long getting picked apart by long jabs and knee strikes.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by LudoCain
    I agree Grove's chin is a concern but Boetsch is making his first cut to 185 and Grove has like 7 inches in height advantage here. I actually see this one going alot like the Munoz fight without the come from behind knockout.
    I agree, except Boetch is no where near as good as Munoz. I think Grove wins too, I almost bet him.

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  • Ludo
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    I agree Grove's chin is a concern but Boetsch is making his first cut to 185 and Grove has like 7 inches in height advantage here. I actually see this one going alot like the Munoz fight without the come from behind knockout.

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  • Ludo
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    Quinton Jackson vs. Matt Hamill
    Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
    Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
    Brian Stann vs. Jorge Santiago
    Rick Story vs. Thiago Alves
    Miguel Torres vs. Demetrious Johnson
    Kendall Grove vs. Tim Boetsch
    Renan Barao vs. Cole Escovedo
    Chris Cariaso vs. Michael McDonald
    Gleison Tibau vs. Rafaello Oliveira

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  • Thewisemann
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    Originally posted by SPX
    Based on WHAT? He's had ONE fight since he got dominated by Fitch, and it was the fight against Howard, someone who fights nothing like Fitch. Did you hear a rumor that he took some kind of magic pills between then and now or something?
    Based on because Thewiseman said so.

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  • Thewisemann
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    I think Alves is gonna suprise you guys. Alves WW champ in 2012.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by Luke
    Because his name is Rick Story not Jon Fitch .KOS is a very good wrestler so you think the fight will go like KOS-Alves did ?
    Story is a fence presser and grinder like Fitch. Kos shoots in for that blast double in the open mat, if he doesn't get it, he usually just stops there or maybe tries again. Story and Fitch both just keep after it until they get what they want. Story is more like Fitch than Kos in the way he goes after the takedown and just doesn't quit on it. Also, The Fitch fight is more recent. Alves may win, just saying that I don't see any reason wht Story can't beat him in the same way Fitch did.

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  • SPX
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    I definitely think Story has a chance. I favor Alves--mostly because of his fight with Kos--but I still think Story could surprise us.

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  • Luke
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    I don't see why Story is not going to do exactly what Fitch did to Alves.
    Because his name is Rick Story not Jon Fitch .KOS is a very good wrestler so you think the fight will go like KOS-Alves did ?

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by Thewisemann
    I think Alves will dominate Story, and I think he would beat Fitch now also.
    Based on WHAT? He's had ONE fight since he got dominated by Fitch, and it was the fight against Howard, someone who fights nothing like Fitch. Did you hear a rumor that he took some kind of magic pills between then and now or something?
    Last edited by SPX; 05-27-2011, 03:14 PM.

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