Ufc 130

[SPX]

Im not buying the Hammil hype.

I didn't realize there was any.

[SPX]

I would not be shocked to see Hamill win. I do think Hamill can put Page on his back and I am not sure Rampage would be able to get up if that happens.

If I could get +250 for Hamill then I would take him. I might go ahead and do it anyway. Unfortunately his line has gotten worse, not better.

[Mr. IWS]

Im not buying the Hammil hype. Ill be on Rampage here.

[Thewisemann]

A focused Rampage should kill Hamil, but I doubt hes focused.

[Mr. IWS]

I've been pulling edman's all day. Somebody help me!

LOL

[Ludo]

I've been pulling edman's all day. Somebody help me!

[Ludo]

yeah, but Hammill just isn't as good as him. We are talking about Rampage that just beat Machida. Hammill is going to be moving in slow mo out there compared to Rashad and Machida. I don't care how great his chin is, if Rampage decks him, he is going down.

At this point I have a hard time betting on Rampage simply because he has made it clear he doesn't give a shit about winning or losing anymore. He gets a nice fat quarter million dollar payday everytime he fights regardless of whether it's a good fight or not. I know he's never been a disciplined guy and always hated training but he really seems to have let himself go. I don't ever remember hearing about him coming into camp at 250lbs before the A-team movie and he had to put on weight for the role which is understandable. But he's kept getting back to 250 since then. Thats why he turned down the fight with Shogun. I think it's only a matter of time before natural talent starts to fail the guy and he's going to get beat by someone he doesn't respect(like Hamill).

[Ludo]

That isn't bad. Stann/Santiago is the only one I am worried about there. I could see Struve/Browne going the distance as well. Browne went the distance with Kongo, and Struve is hard to finish. Still not bad @ +odds.

I looked at the fight with Kongo and alot of that had to do with Kongo stalling out. Between these guys they only have 3 decisions on their combined records and both go after the finish on a regular basis. Plus Brownes Cardio not being great I think he starts to fade in the third round.

Same kind of thinking for Stann and Santiago, these two are not the type of guys looking to hear that final bell. They both go after it and only when they match up with someone who can muscle them around who's not really polished enough for a finish do they go to a decision.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah I watched his video diary thing a couple weeks back where he got "ratted out" for cheating bigtime on his diet. I honestly think he takes Fighting even less seriously now than he did when he announced retirement last year.

yeah, but Hammill just isn't as good as him. We are talking about Rampage that just beat Machida. Hammill is going to be moving in slow mo out there compared to Rashad and Machida. I don't care how great his chin is, if Rampage decks him, he is going down.

[poopoo333]

I am not so sure about Grove, neither I am with Torres. This is the 2 that can make you lose IMO.
Also from the latest videos of Rampage that I saw, he was FAT AS HELL.
I know he is always really fat when he doesn't have a fight coming but this is really close to fight time to be THAT fat

"3 more days till weigh in. 205 is no longer mission impossible." -Quinton Jackson

[MMA_scientist]

I am not so sure about Grove, neither I am with Torres. This is the 2 that can make you lose IMO.

For sure... but I think it is worth +1600.

[MMA_scientist]

My first time trying one of these "magic prop parlays". Let's see how it goes.

2.5u to win 2.56u

Pending 5/28/11 11:00pm Props Fighting 1206 Not Hamill inside distance -1487* vs Hamill wins inside distance
Pending 5/28/11 10:30pm Props Fighting 1328 Any other result -3475* vs R.Nelson wins by submission
Pending 5/28/11 9:00pm Props Fighting 1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance -260* vs Stann/Santiago goes 3 round distance
Pending 5/28/11 10:00pm Props Fighting 1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance -320* vs Struve/Browne goes 3 round distance
Pending 5/28/11 9:25pm Props Fighting 1614 Fight not a draw -7000* vs Story/Alves draw

That isn't bad. Stann/Santiago is the only one I am worried about there. I could see Struve/Browne going the distance as well. Browne went the distance with Kongo, and Struve is hard to finish. Still not bad @ +odds.

[Ludo]

I am not so sure about Grove, neither I am with Torres. This is the 2 that can make you lose IMO.
Also from the latest videos of Rampage that I saw, he was FAT AS HELL.
I know he is always really fat when he doesn't have a fight coming but this is really close to fight time to be THAT fat

Yeah I watched his video diary thing a couple weeks back where he got "ratted out" for cheating bigtime on his diet. I honestly think he takes Fighting even less seriously now than he did when he announced retirement last year.

[Ludo]

McDonald is a bad ass. He wins this easy. He was on the UFC on Versus 3 prelims on Facebook, so you should have seen him

Actually it was the UFN24 prelims, Bolo.

[Ludo]

My first time trying one of these "magic prop parlays". Let's see how it goes.

2.5u to win 2.56u

Pending 5/28/11 11:00pm Props Fighting 1206 Not Hamill inside distance -1487* vs Hamill wins inside distance
Pending 5/28/11 10:30pm Props Fighting 1328 Any other result -3475* vs R.Nelson wins by submission
Pending 5/28/11 9:00pm Props Fighting 1404 Fight won't go 3 round distance -260* vs Stann/Santiago goes 3 round distance
Pending 5/28/11 10:00pm Props Fighting 1504 Fight won't go 3 round distance -320* vs Struve/Browne goes 3 round distance
Pending 5/28/11 9:25pm Props Fighting 1614 Fight not a draw -7000* vs Story/Alves draw