Ufc 130

[SPX]

Okay, well then Torres' strike attack was sufficient enough to ward of all takedown attempts.

[poopoo333]

He lunged for a couple, I think.

[SPX]

He lunged for a couple, I think.

[poopoo333]

^^^That didn't happen at all. Banuelos went for no takedowns.


Vandelay, I agree. I guess I should not buy into the "Torres is now a super wrestler" hype at all. I bought into that bullshit for Kenny Florian when he fought Gray Maynard. I originally planned on betting mighty mouse, and I think money will come in on Torres. Still not completely sure though.

[SPX]

Banuelos went for a few takedowns but just couldn't get them.

Kind of like Shields/GSP.

[Vandelay]

Yea well Banuelos went with the sherk gameplan of abandoning your strength. Torres should be able to have decent takedown defense because he doesnt really commit to any power punches and isnt wild, but he's just weak. Mighty mouse has power, speed, and blends everything together well.

[SPX]

How do you know he can't wrestle? The only fight he's had since he went all super-wrestler was the fight with Banuelos and he wasn't ever taken down.

[Vandelay]

Why does everyone favor torres? The dude still cant wrestle and will be at a huge speed disadvantage.

[SPX]

Shit, I thought -170 was worth it. If I can get him at either price I'm dropping 3u.

[poopoo333]

-140 might be worth it on Torres....

[Vandelay]

down to -140 and even on 5 dimes

[poopoo333]

Opened @ Torres -185/Johnson +145

[edman5555]

I actually think Nelson is a very good bet. Nelson's hands are plenty good enough to clip Mir. And when he does clip him, one of two things will happen. #1, Mir will fold, or #2, Mir will go into survival mode like he did the Cro cop fight. Also, Nelson IMO has good enough clinch takedowns to take Mir down if he wants to.

Mir MIGHT have slightly better stand up, but Nelson's chin and determination will make up for it.

Also think Browne beats Struve.

2 best bets IMO so far are Browne and Nelson.

Browne will probably be able to keep Struve against the cage wall if he wants to. The only thing that conerns me is that Struve has a lot of power. He has dropped a lot of guys and is getting stronger and stronger. Browne was kind of raw in his fight with Kongo, although he was effective. Nelson-Mir I can't call tbh. Nelson can't run through all his punches. I think Mir hits pretty hard. He dropped Kongo and Kongo has never been knocked out before. Mirs hands aren't bad. Nelson is supposedly in the best shape of his life for this fight though so he might be a good bet.

So far I am considering Alves. He seems to be getting his weight issues under control. I will probably bet him pending weigh in pics. All Story's fights have been somewhat close and Alves only recent losses are to GSP and Fitch. He was coming off a horrible weight cut for Fitch as well. I am thinking about Kendall Grove as well, mostly because everyone seems to think he will win and Boestch doesn't seem to be that good though I will have to watch some tape.

Also, Tibau Mcdonald and Barao. My phone is ringing.

[poopoo333]

I wonder where the Mir/Nelson line is going to go? I have a feeling we will see +140ish on Nelson come fight week

[sbjj]

I actually think Nelson is a very good bet. Nelson's hands are plenty good enough to clip Mir. And when he does clip him, one of two things will happen. #1, Mir will fold, or #2, Mir will go into survival mode like he did the Cro cop fight. Also, Nelson IMO has good enough clinch takedowns to take Mir down if he wants to.

Mir MIGHT have slightly better stand up, but Nelson's chin and determination will make up for it.

Also think Browne beats Struve.

2 best bets IMO so far are Browne and Nelson.