Ufc 130

[MMA_scientist]

And Roy beat Mir in a grappling match.

FTR, I said I thought Mir was a better grappler.
That was also in 2003.

Story beat Ellenberger in 2008, which still has some relevance to today IMO.

I any event, I would probably pick Fitch to win a decision over Story as well... I was just saying, he is extremely Fitchy in his gameplans in the last 2 fights.

[poopoo333]

So did Roy Nelson look like shit tonight or did Mir look really good? That was the first time (I think) that we saw Mir in more of a "complete" fight instead of just a beatdown.

[SPX]

FTR, I said I thought Mir was a better grappler.
That was also in 2003.

Story beat Ellenberger in 2008, which still has some relevance to today IMO.

I any event, I would probably pick Fitch to win a decision over Story as well... I was just saying, he is extremely Fitchy in his gameplans in the last 2 fights.

Obviously 2003 is a lot farther back than 2008, but that's still a good bit of time, especially when talking about these young guys who are still improving at a rapid rate.

Besides, I never saw the fight. For all I know the judges fucked up.

[Luke]

So did Roy Nelson look like shit tonight or did Mir look really good? That was the first time (I think) that we saw Mir in more of a "complete" fight instead of just a beatdown.

Roy looked like shit. Maybe this fight will tell Roy you can't come in to a fight looking like "the people of walmart" and expect to win a fight against a decent opponent

[SPX]

So did Roy Nelson look like shit tonight or did Mir look really good? That was the first time (I think) that we saw Mir in more of a "complete" fight instead of just a beatdown.

Maybe some of both. Nelson is in the big leagues now. He actually holds 0 wins over top fighters. That's right. He has never beaten anyone that could be considered a top fighter in the heavyweight division.

[MMA_scientist]

So did Roy Nelson look like shit tonight or did Mir look really good? That was the first time (I think) that we saw Mir in more of a "complete" fight instead of just a beatdown.

I don't think Mir looked very good personally. I thought they both looked shitty, with Mir being less shitty. He did hit a sweet throw though.

[SPX]

Roy looked like shit. Maybe this fight will tell Roy you can't come in to a fight looking like "the people of walmart" and expect to win a fight against a decent opponent

LOL

Word.

[SPX]

I don't think Mir looked very good personally. I thought they both looked shitty, with Mir being less shitty. He did hit a sweet throw though.

Other than the fact that he didn't finish him, what more could you have wanted?

[Vandelay]

Nelson's takedowns suck. I was impressed with mir's takedowns tho. He found success in dropping to his knees and tying both of nelsons legs up. Way more effective than his lame single leg attempts. Nelson looked off tonight tho. He usually doesn't gas. Maybe he wasnt completely healed from his knee surgery.

[MMA_scientist]

Other than the fact that he didn't finish him, what more could you have wanted?

He just didn't put up very much offense. He let Roy press him on the cage quite a bit in the first round. I don't know how many of those knees actually landed, but that was really his only output in the fight. He got a few takedowns, but he didn't pass and when Roy gave his back, he didn't go for the finish. Mir also gassed IMO, just not as bad as Roy.

Basically, I just hate Mir and I don't want to give him any credit.

[poopoo333]

I am not saying the fight would have went different, but I am pretty sure Roy was sick this week. He had no voice at the press conference and in an interview he told Helwani he got sick at UFC 129 and still has whatever he got there but he doesn't go to doctors.

[SPX]

He just didn't put up very much offense. He let Roy press him on the cage quite a bit in the first round. I don't know how many of those knees actually landed, but that was really his only output in the fight. He got a few takedowns, but he didn't pass and when Roy gave his back, he didn't go for the finish. Mir also gassed IMO, just not as bad as Roy.

Basically, I just hate Mir and I don't want to give him any credit.

Considering the fact that I thought Roy might: a) crack Mir with a punch and (T)KO him, or b) outwrestle him. . .

or I thought the fight might be a boring back and forth affair a la the Mir-Crocop fight. . .

I thought Mir looked great. He went out and really went after it. I thought it was a fantastic fight and proved that Mir can go three rounds with high output for a heavyweight.

[zY|]

That was the first time (I think) that we saw Mir in more of a "complete" fight instead of just a beatdown.

Agreed.

It's one of the only wins of Mir's career that doesn't just seem like a complete goddamn fluke.

I thought he was very impressive.

[Svino]

I actually want to see Story v. Fitch to see who is the Fitchiest wrestler in the land.

I bet Story would win the first round and Fitch the third.

It would be an interesting fight, although the betting me hates it when two guys I like to bet on get paired up.

[Svino]

Also: Stann vs. Santiago FotN? That's the weakest FotN I've seen in a long time. Really a gift for Santiago, there.