TUF 13 Finale

[poopoo333]

I posted the vid of Downes vs Horodecki in this thread. He took the fight on 3 days notice.

[SPX]

I didn't know about 3 days notice, but he got his three days ass kicked.

[SPX]

I read that earlier... but what does Downes try to do? Is he going to try to use his reach on Stephens, basically do the Stout/Davis/Guillard game plan, and try to win a decision without getting caught in the hail storm? Or is he going to come try to take him down? What is Downes going to try here?

Stephens is no ground master, but his grappling isn't shitty either. I think Downes will just get muscled around if he tries to wrestle.

[Vandelay]

Odds are up. I'm liking Maldandado, Roop, and Creadeur at the current lines. Grispi is being way overvalued in my opinion.

[Vandelay]

Little info on his camp and outlook towards this fight

[Luke]

Are ya'll talking about the Stevens that was getting his ass beat by 50 year old Marcus Davis before he landed a hail marry punch at the end of rd 3 to win the fight? If so no way would I lay -300 on that

[poopoo333]

^yep. I am not going to bet him either.

[SPX]

Are ya'll talking about the Stevens that was getting his ass beat by 50 year old Marcus Davis before he landed a hail marry punch at the end of rd 3 to win the fight? If so no way would I lay -300 on that

Marcus Davis is a good fighter and looked very good that night.

But yeah, same Stephens. The same one who knocked Dos Anjos's head into the stands, who beat Sam Stout, who arguably beat Melvin Guillard, and who pounded out Cole Miller.

[Luke]

Marcus Davis is a good fighter and looked very good that night.

But yeah, same Stephens. The same one who knocked Dos Anjos's head into the stands, who beat Sam Stout, who arguably beat Melvin Guillard, and who pounded out Cole Miller.

Well Chuck Liddell was great a bunch of fights ago too but what does that have to do with today ? Fact is he looked like shit in his last fight so I wouldnt lay -300 on him in the next fight , he may win easily but he could also be the next Mike Brown or Jamie Varner

[SPX]

Well Chuck Liddell was great a bunch of fights ago too but what does that have to do with today ? Fact is he looked like shit in his last fight so I wouldnt lay -300 on him in the next fight , he may win easily but he could also be the next Mike Brown or Jamie Varner

Well, two things:

1. He won that fight.

2. I don't think you're giving Davis enough credit there. I remember when I watched it I didn't think "Stephens looks bad", I thought "Davis looks good." There's a difference.

[Luke]

Well, two things:

1. He won that fight.

2. I don't think you're giving Davis enough credit there. I remember when I watched it I didn't think "Stephens looks bad", I thought "Davis looks good." There's a difference.

I was just saying why I wouldnt bet it is all , my opinion doesnt mean jack

[SPX]

Fair enough.

[poopoo333]

Marcus davis just barely won a gimme fight against a can. He sucks. He even lost to another bum in dan hardy

[sbjj]

Downes opposition record minus his 2 wec fights is 28-61. Yes that is 28 wins and 61 LOSSES! He beat the Chinaman ONLY because he gassed out after beating Downes ass in the 1st round. I am not saying Stephens is all that. But he is a proven commodity within the UFC LW division facing a guy who has NEVER faced anyone close to the level of fighter Stephens has not only faced, but beat. I think -300 is more than fair.

[SPX]

Preach it, brother!