Strikeforce April 9th Diaz vs Daley

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  • Luke
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    • Oct 2006
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/04/0...his-last-at-l/


    Keith Jardine moving down to MW after Mousasi fight (probably)
    I just texted X about that. Sounds to me he plans on losing this weekend
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    • Ludo
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 4931

      Looks like neither Jardine or Daley think they can win this weekend. Not long ago Daley was saying "what if I don't WANT to make them(zuffa) more money by fighting?" and now he's convinced he's the victim of the evil scheme known as the title shot. Fucker should be counting his lucky stars that he's even being offered a shot after missing weight in like 5 of his last 8 fights or something. If anything it's Strikeforce taking all the risk by hinging this event on someone who never consistently makes weight which is insane for a guy who's fought 7 times in the last 15 months. How the fuck do you find time to get out of shape when your averaging a fight every two months for over a year?

      Honestly I don't know what the move will do for Jardine. If anything it'll be a harder transition for him(maybe not in Strikeforce at first) with all the competant strikers there. It's just as much a minefield for him as Light Heavyweight unless he fixes that nervous tick where he drops his left hand and passes out.
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 98671

        Originally posted by LudoCain
        unless he fixes that nervous tick where he drops his left hand and passes out.
        this shit legitimately had me crackin the fuck up.
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        • Mr. IWS
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          • Sep 2006
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          If I can get Mousasi around -350 to -400, Ill probably get on him.
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          • MMA_scientist
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            • Nov 2009
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            props are open on 5d.

            made the following:

            5u to win 1.06u Not Daley by submission/Not Kawajiri inside distance/Not Beerbohm by sub
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            • poopoo333
              MMA *********
              • Jan 2010
              • 18302

              SAN DIEGO -- MMA Fighting spoke to Nick Diaz on Thursday about his welterweight title fight against Paul Daley at Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley, why he took this fight on short notice, his feelings...


              Diaz is so awkward.

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              • Luke
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                • Oct 2006
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                Originally posted by poopoo333

                Awkward?...........I call it a low IQ
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                • MMA_scientist
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                  • Nov 2009
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                  Diaz has really grown on me. I used to just think he was an idiot burnout with an poser attitude, who happened to be an MMA savant... I guess I still do think that, but I get a kick out of him and I pretty much root for him in every fight. But he has a lot going for him too, he stayed loyal to his camp and training partners which I respect, he trains consistently day in day out (a lot of fighters just show up for camps before they fight and spend the rest of thier lives just messing around), he brings it every time and he doesn't go out there to win a decision...

                  War Diaz?

                  Originally posted by Diaz
                  "(About UFC buying Strikeforce) Honestly, I don't understand this whole thing. I'm way too busy training. It's hard for me to understand what's going on. But I knew there was a reason why I never strapped that belt around my waist. Whatever, champion, whatever. (Paul Daley) can have the belt. I'm fighting for money."

                  "I don't feel like a champion right now that the UFC bought this organization. I don't understand all that. I thought we were competing with the UFC. I thought my belt was potentially just as important as the UFC belt and we had the best fighters here (in Strikeforce); more technical martial artists and stand-up fighters."

                  "But now this is all about going to the UFC so I don't care about the Strikeforce belt. There was a reason why I never put that shit on anyways."
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                  • Mr. IWS
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                    Has he every looked directly at the person that asks him questions? He looks everywhere but it seems.
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                    • SPX
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      Originally posted by Diaz
                      I thought my belt was potentially just as important as the UFC belt and we had the best fighters here (in Strikeforce); more technical martial artists and stand-up fighters.
                      LOL. Better fighters than the UFC, especially at welterweight? I hope he doesn't actually believe that shit.
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                      • Luke
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                        • Oct 2006
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                        Originally posted by SPX
                        LOL. Better fighters than the UFC, especially at welterweight? I hope he doesn't actually believe that shit.

                        I think the gap between UFC and Strikeforce fighters is closer than you think.
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                        • SPX
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          Originally posted by Luke
                          I think the gap between UFC and Strikeforce fighters is closer than you think.
                          SF's best welterweights are Diaz and Daley and both those guys had their crack at the UFC. Of course they're great fighters. But he's talking about SF having better, more technical fighters than the UFC.

                          So let's say Diaz, Daley and Cyborg vs GSP, Koscheck, and Fitch in a three-man tag match and let's see who wins.
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                          • Ludo
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                            • Jan 2010
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                            Strikeforce has a pretty weak roster for welterweights. Thats why Diaz' last three title defenses were against guys normally from outside the organization or normally outside of the division(Noons really kind of falls in between lightweight and welterweight). They let Jay Heiron walk right out the door for some reason and now all they are left with are hopes and dreams to fill the void on a per diem basis up until this point. Don't get Me wrong Tyron Woodley and Tarec Saffedein(spelling?) are good fighters but I don't think either one of them is ready for a shot at the title. A problem there is that there isn't a whole lot of filler in Strikeforce. There's Nick Diaz and Paul Daley, and then there's the Cyborgs, Scott Smith's, then the up and coming fighters.

                            On the whole Strikeforce has a decent roster. Better heavyweight roster than the UFC on a man by man basis. Light Heavyweight is kind of hurting. Middleweight is almost even and Lightweight is a good list of fighters.
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                            • Ludo
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                              Originally posted by SPX
                              So let's say Diaz, Daley and Cyborg vs GSP, Koscheck, and Fitch in a three-man tag match and let's see who wins.

                              Let's say your mom vs Cristiane Cyborg and see who wins.
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                              • Luke
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                                anyone got a link to weigh ins?
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