UFC 132 July 2nd

[Vandelay]

One thing I have forgotten about is that stun gun's last two fights have been against some of the most physically weak competition at ww. I don't remember how good condit's takedown defense is, but it's gotta be better then his last couple of opponents.

[MMA_scientist]

"not Guillard by sub" is -977... that has value to spare.

I did "not guillard/not bader/not cruz"

[edman5555]

I think Stun gun will have trouble taking Condit down.

[poopoo333]

I think Stun gun will have trouble taking Condit down.

Based on what?

[poopoo333]

OK, could have swore Koch was fighting Swanson on this card.

He was going to, but Swanson broke his face.

[edman5555]

Based on what?

Condit isn't that easy to take down. Ellenberger and Kampmann had trouble with him. Condit has high work rate I guess you could say, Stun gun seems like he loses steam (though he did say this had something to do with making the trip from S Korea to fight). Also Karo beat him, it was only overturned due to pain killers. So I am guessing that means he couldn't get Karo down. Nate almost beat him as well.

Condit was taken down consintently by Rory though, so maybe he will lose. I just don't think it is close to a "lock" for Stun gun. Not to mention Condits KO power.

[poopoo333]

Condit isn't that easy to take down. Ellenberger and Kampmann had trouble with him. Condit has high work rate I guess you could say, Stun gun seems like he loses steam (though he did say this had something to do with making the trip from S Korea to fight). Also Karo beat him, it was only overturned due to pain killers. So I am guessing that means he couldn't get Karo down. Nate almost beat him as well.

Condit was taken down consistently by Rory though, so maybe he will lose. I just don't think it is close to a "lock" for Stun gun. Not to mention Condits KO power.

Condit was taken down in rounds 2 and 3 (after being nearly killed in round 1) against Ellenberger, Condit won because he was able to end up in mount in round 2 on a gassed Ellenberger after threatening with a kimura from the guard (he used it to sweep and ended up in mount). Then in round 3 Condit was taken down again and Ellenberger went for a guilliotine and failed so he was on bottom the rest of the round until he swept Condit when the fight was almost over. And Kampann took Condit down whenever he wanted. And DHK/Pariysan was close, but DHK took Pariysan down, but Pariysan pulled off a few judo throws that he did nothing with. That fight sucked.

[edman5555]

Condit reverses a lot. IIRC. Sweeps might be the more appropriate name. I will probably bet Condit if he is a dog.

[SPX]

If you were actually broke and needed the money for real, I would kick in a couple bucks. But to fund your 5d account when all you have to do is withdraw it from BM... no.

Well I was speaking of being generally broke.

Speaking of withdrawing, you know, I've never actually done so. I've had my accounts open for just over 2 years and still never once withdrawn any money. Considering I want it to grow to the point of actually having a substantial unit size I still don't see myself doing it for several years unless something catastrophic happens.

[SPX]

Condit reverses a lot. IIRC. Sweeps might be the more appropriate name. I will probably bet Condit if he is a dog.

I'm still getting used to the term "sweep" in the BJJ context.

When I think of sweeps, I think of old fashioned karate leg sweeps.

[poopoo333]

One of my favorite sweeps in MMA I have seen was Big Nog against Randy Couture.

[MMA_scientist]

One of my favorite sweeps in MMA I have seen was Big Nog against Randy Couture.

Just a perfect old school v sweep. Just scoots his hips a little and as soon as Randy follows him... woops, right to mount.




I like to see the deep half guard sweeps the most, since that is the game I usually play myself. But you don't end up in mount... which is why full guard is the boss.

[sbjj]

Will not know my bets until Thursday in Vegas. But will end up like this.

20 to 25 units on Cruz straight.

5 units on Cruz-Guillard parlay.

5 units on DHK straight

3 to 4 units on DHK-Guillard or Klit. parlay.

2.5 to 3 units on Wiman

2.5 to 3 units on Leben

3 to 5 unit parlay on Guillard-Klit.

IF somehow Bowles line is not in the stratosphere, I may replace Guillard in a couple of the parlays with him.sbjj

[edman5555]

I didn't grab Cruz straight. I will prob grab him by dec. I don't see him knocking out or submitting Faber

[poopoo333]

Do you live close to Vegas?