Strikeforce: Hendo vs Fedor

[flyinggogoplata]

yeah they did the same thing to liddell

[Luke]

yeah they did the same thing to liddell

And Ortiz

[poopoo333]

X, what do you think about Kaufman/Tate II?

[SPX]

I think Kaufman beats her ass just like she did in the first fight.

Kaufman is a fucking beast. She will absolutely obliterate Tate on the feet and I think her T3D is good enough to keep it standing at least the majority of the time.

Tate WAS able to steal around in their first fight when she got Kaufman down and was able to hold her there until the bell rang, though. So it's not completely unthinkable that she could do it again. But Tate is slightly undersized for the division and Kaufman is strong as an ox, so I think Kaufman controls the action more often than not.

[flyinggogoplata]

5 rounds. Kaufman is getting subbed.

[SPX]

Just like Kaufman was going to lose to Carmouche 30-27, right?

[flyinggogoplata]

That fight was pretty much all standing. This fight is going to the ground.

[poopoo333]

Kaufman is bigger and stronger than Coenen and has WAY better scrambling ability imo. Tate might steal a round or two early, but she will have to work and I think Kaufman will take over in the later rounds. This is going to be a clinchfest against the cage early. Also...is it just me or did Tate look gassed every time she got up after a round? She seriously looked like a zombie to me. If she gasses against Kaufman, she won't be able to capitalize on Kaufman having poor TDD like she did against Coenen and will get lit up. Kaufman is literally going to take a strap on and fuck Tate in the ass right in the middle of the cage.

[flyinggogoplata]

meh Kaufman has horrible sub defense and Tate just subbed one the best grapplers in the division. Yes she was gassed but still won late and was coming off a knee injury and a year lay off. She recovered great in between rounds.

[SPX]

1. Tate won't be able to capitalize on Kaufman's "poor T3D" because Kaufman can actually defend takedowns very well. That's what makes Kaufman so awesome. Not only is her boxing top-shelf, but he's also a very solid wrestler in her own right. She is well-rounded.

2. Yes, I also thought Tate looked gassed and I was worried she was going to lose in the championship rounds simply because she was too tired to defend Coenen's sub attempts.

3. There will be some assfucking.

[poopoo333]

She recovered great in between rounds.

I agree with this for sure. Everytime she walked to her corner I was like "ah fuck she is gonna lose, she is exhausted" and she was able to come out and get the TD each time.

meh Kaufman has horrible sub defense and Tate just subbed one the best grapplers in the division.

So Kaufman's only loss is by sub to the person you just called one of the best grapplers in the division, and somehow she has bad sub defense? Kaufman was probably winning rounds 1 and 2 against Coenen, ended up on top, and got caught in an armbar from bottom. I doubt Tate will be crafty enough to catch Kaufman from the bottom.

[poopoo333]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43977638/ns/sports-mma/

Looks good to me

[flyinggogoplata]

[QUOTE=poopoo333;297764] I doubt Tate will be crafty enough to catch Kaufman from the bottom.[/QUOTE

Tate isn't going to be on bottom. Tate fought off a fresh Coenen with a back mount for a whole round. Kaufman on the other hand got super sloppy and arm barred.

[poopoo333]

whateva, I hope Kaufman is the dog.

[flyinggogoplata]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/08/01/miesha-tate-celebrating-title-win-after-rocky-injury-filled-cam/

Tate is so awesome. She had a horrible camp and still beat one of the best.