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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    Bellator 42

    trying to keep the Bellator win streak alive. This is the only fight this week again...

    Card:
    Cole Konrad vs. Paul Buentello

    Bellator Light Heavyweight Tournament Semifinals
    Richard Hale vs. D.J. Linderman
    Tim Carpenter vs. Christian M'Pumbu

    Ronnie Mann vs. Josh Arocho


    Konrad is definitely going to beat Buentello. Any guesses on the line? I think about -700.

    I would like to parlay Konrad with someone, but I don't know much about these 205ers. The only one I was familiar with was Fekete, and he lost last round to Hale via inverted triangle choke.

    I guess I could throw Konrad in with GSP or Machida or Aldo (or allof them!). No, but I really don't see Konrad losing here.
    2012: +19.33
    2012 Parlay project: +16.5u
  • Thewisemann
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1989

    #2
    At what line would you bet Konrad straight?

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    • MMA_scientist
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 9857

      #3
      I try not to ever go over -400 or so. It is not a frim rule, but I try to stick to it. If I can't find anything, I will do Konrad + some props for UFC 130.
      2012: +19.33
      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #4
        Konrad is still green as hell and Buentello is veteran who still has skills. There's no way in hell I'd bet Konrad at anything over -150. Fuck that shit.
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        • Mr. IWS
          215 Hustler
          • Sep 2006
          • 98671

          #5
          Originally posted by SPX
          Konrad is still green as hell and Buentello is veteran who still has skills. There's no way in hell I'd bet Konrad at anything over -150. Fuck that shit.
          Srs?

          I think he will be around -700 like Scientist said, but If I could get him at like -250 or some shit like that, I would be all over that. Buentello was getting grapplefucked by Kongo, I dont see how it will be any easier against Konrad.
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          • MMA_scientist
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 9857

            #6
            Originally posted by SPX
            Konrad is still green as hell and Buentello is veteran who still has skills. There's no way in hell I'd bet Konrad at anything over -150. Fuck that shit.
            srsly?

            Well, he is going to be more than that. At least -300 IMO, probably more like -500. So I assume you will be on Buentello at +200 or better?
            2012: +19.33
            2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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            • edman5555
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 6628

              #7
              Buentello was pushed around by big fat Tim Sylvia too. Konrad is like a big fat Sylvia but with wrestling skill, he should be able to do the job. Maybe even a submission win.
              1 unit = 300 $

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              • MMA_scientist
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 9857

                #8
                ^^ I think Konrad will stop him as well, either by bear paw strikes or submission. Konrad is huge and very strong... don't let his titties fool you. He is the 2nd best wrestler at HW in MMA (Cormier is #1 IMO).
                2012: +19.33
                2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  #9
                  I just see Konrad as a guy who is NOT a mixed martial artist--he is a one-trick pony--and while he's good at the one thing he's good at, he's eventually going to run up against someone who actually is a decent fighter and he's going to lose. And after he loses, he probably won't win very much after that, unless he goes back to fighting dudes no one's ever heard of.
                  I heart cock

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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                    ^^ I think Konrad will stop him as well, either by bear paw strikes or submission. Konrad is huge and very strong... don't let his titties fool you. He is the 2nd best wrestler at HW in MMA (Cormier is #1 IMO).
                    From what I've seen, Brock would push his shit in hardcore.
                    I heart cock

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                    • MMA_scientist
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 9857

                      #11
                      ^ Probably in MMA. Brock looks like he hits a lot harder and he would probably wear Cole down and beat him with cardio. But I don't think Brock could take him down... Konrad is a 2x champion and he also defeated Steve Mocco, the HW olympian in 2008. That said, I agree he is a one trick pony, i just disagree that this is a bad thing. I mean it is one thing if your oen trick is wrestling and you aren't that good at it, but that isn't Konrad. Also, being a HW, the submission and sweep threat is a lot lower... so his one trick is even more potent.
                      2012: +19.33
                      2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        #12
                        Konrad sucks!
                        I heart cock

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                        • MMA_scientist
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 9857

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SPX
                          Konrad sucks!
                          Fine, you win. I stand before your logic and argumentative prowess as helpless child...
                          2012: +19.33
                          2012 Parlay project: +16.5u

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                          • Ludo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4931

                            #14
                            Cheick Kongo. That is all.
                            2013: +8.24u(increased unit size on 5/19)
                            Favorites: 20-6 + 6.13u
                            Underdogs: 10-19 -2.51u
                            Ludo's Locks Parlay Project: +1.4u

                            2012: +20.311u

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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              #15
                              What does that even mean, though? Kongo's a good fighter. Much better than fucking Cole Konrad.

                              Nigga all running around spelling his name with a K like he's out of Mortal Kombat or something.
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