UFC on Versus 5

[poopoo333]

I think Jim Miller will win on the feet, and will have the advantage on the ground. Even if Henderson can take Miller down, I think Miller will be able to get back to his feet and avoid any long periods of time on his back. Henderson won't be able to keep Miller down and do much damage or get a sub, but I think Miller will be able to get Henderson down and keep him there. The only time Jim Miller has really been in trouble was against Bocek on the ground, but Henderson is no Bocek when it comes to grappling.

inb4peopletellmehendersonbeatbocek

[SPX]

Why?

I think Bendo has a very good chance to win.

[poopoo333]

Thinking about going big on Jim Miller here.

[SPX]

Bye, Paul.

Probably.

[poopoo333]

Donald Cerrone Replaces Makdessi, Faces Paul Taylor at UFC on Versus 5



BOL

[SPX]

That's gay.

I didn't want to see either guy lose though, so it's okay.

[poopoo333]

John Makdessi injured, forced out of UFC on Versus 5 bout with Paul Taylor

[Luke]

Lost interest ....................

[SPX]

Well then I'm going to need examples because Lesnar has been a fav in every fight he's fought in and so was Kimbo.

Examples of what?

Besides casual fans don't move lines ,big bettors do.

Money moves lines. If there are that many more casual fans than big bettors who are betting, the volume should be enough push the line in one direction or another.

[Luke]

Well there were a lot of people here who thought Cain would lose those fights. I thought both Lesnar and Nog had a chance, and had money on Nog in fact. Hindsight is 20/20 obviously, but you never know what's going to happen going into it. So I don't think it was that unreasonable for Cain to end up the dog.

Well then I'm going to need examples because Lesnar has been a fav in every fight he's fought in and so was Kimbo .

Besides casual fans don't move lines ,big bettors do.

[SPX]

You mean like Cain being the underdog to Lesnar or Big Nog at closing?

Well there were a lot of people here who thought Cain would lose those fights. I thought both Lesnar and Nog had a chance, and had money on Nog in fact. Hindsight is 20/20 obviously, but you never know what's going to happen going into it. So I don't think it was that unreasonable for Cain to end up the dog.

[Luke]

What I want to know is how many casual fans bet on MMA. It seems that if the books were dominated by casuals who really don't understand the sport then we would end up with a lot of really good lines that got pushed in a retarded direction, like Kimbo being the favorite against Stefan Struve or something.

You mean like Cain being the underdog to Lesnar or Big Nog at closing?

A lot of casual fans bet MMA, they may not bet 200-500 a fight bet they are betting 50-100

[poopoo333]

Pretty sure he had a knee surgery like 4 weeks out from the fight. I think Ebersole is just good as well

[SPX]

Do you guys think Lytle will take Hardy down? I am pretty sure Lytle will be able to hang with Hardy on the feet, but Hardy actually did look pretty impressive against Swick @ UFC 105 after rewatching it.

There are a lot of questions surrounding Lytle right now. He did not look good in his last fight and apparently had some kind of injury that he thought might force him to retire.

And I agree that Hardy looked really good against Swick. He's a solid fighter.

[SPX]

You think most casual MMA fans know who Nate is ? I don't , I think more people will remember "oh this guy just dominated Alves "

What I want to know is how many casual fans bet on MMA. It seems that if the books were dominated by casuals who really don't understand the sport then we would end up with a lot of really good lines that got pushed in a retarded direction, like Kimbo being the favorite against Stefan Struve or something.