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  • sbjj
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    ^ No. I think Oliveira is a better grappler by a lot and Cerrone tends to get tagged a lot standing as well. I think Oliveira has the edge in takedowns and submissions, standing it is close.
    This is the thing standing. Cerrone fights at a very methodical pace. i think Oliveira will give him fits with his workrate alone standing. Also cerrone only seems to have a distinct edge standing when he is allowed to push his opponent back. i doubt he does this with Oliveira. In fact, I think oliveira will be pushing cerrone back, and that is when cerrone gets clipped...while moving back.

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    I doubt it.
    btw, I meant that I doubt you are alone in thinking that.

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  • sbjj
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    I'm really surprised how many people seem to like Cerrone.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    ^ No. I think Oliveira is a better grappler by a lot and Cerrone tends to get tagged a lot standing as well. I think Oliveira has the edge in takedowns and submissions, standing it is close.

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by sbjj
    Am I alone in thinking that Oliveira holds a fairly large edge over Cerrone?
    I doubt it.

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  • sbjj
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    Am I alone in thinking that Oliveira holds a fairly large edge over Cerrone?

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  • edman5555
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    Well I really doubt Hardy can knock out Lytle. I highly doubt he can submit him. So I guess a bet by decision on him is worth it because it will probably be at good odds. I don't know if he can outstrike him though. That might be kinda hard. I think Lytles hands are pretty good.

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  • poopoo333
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    Tom Lawlor Injured, Off UFC on Versus 5 Card, Ed Herman Now Faces Kyle Noke

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  • AC88
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    Originally posted by SPX
    I don't understand what you're saying here.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall Lytle pretty much only throwing punches whereas Hardy mixes knees and sometimes kicks?

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  • SPX
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    Originally posted by AC88
    . . . but Hardy utilizes more muay thai.
    I don't understand what you're saying here.

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  • AC88
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    I've got Lytle in this really irrelevant fight. Lytle has Hardy's number on the ground and on the feet, it could very well be even, but Hardy utilizes more muay thai. I think Lytle is the safer bet but I think Hardy can come in and outpoint him on the feet.

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  • Ludo
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    Originally posted by poopoo333
    Lytle/Hardy is tough to call. What do you guys think about it?
    Honestly I think standing they could be closer to even than alot of people might think. Despite being knocked silly by Condit Hardy still has some decent technical boxing. That said Lytle probably wins it on the feet with more power, more versatility, and a better chin. On the ground Hardy gets raped positionally.

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  • flyinggogoplata
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    That fight sucks for betting

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  • poopoo333
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    Lytle/Hardy is tough to call. What do you guys think about it?

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  • MMA_scientist
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    That Cerrone/Oliveira fight is sexytime.

    I think Oliveira will sub him though.

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