UFC on Versus 5

[poopoo333]

Some info on Hettes:

http://jimhettes.com/about/

I can't find any fight videos though.

[poopoo333]

Pooppp, ss for Dolloway, he is turning into quite the grappler IMO. He has pretty nasty front chokes, but that pretty much requires the other guy to do the shooting. I can't stand his face, but he has a solid submission game and I like his wrestle/submit style. I don't remember much about Hamman though. What does he do?

Hamman is really just a really tough fighter. He won't stop fighting and he puts on a good show. He is one of those "not great in any area fighters". As for the front chokes, I can see Hamman getting into that position to be choked in a scramble.

[edman5555]

As far as Oliv/Cerrone goes, I put 1.5u on Cerrone by decision. +407 is too good to pass up. I think that Cerrone has the edge in the standup and he probably has good enough grappling to avoid getting subbed on the ground or controlled for too long. I could be wrong about that though.

[edman5555]

no footage of Hettes. I think he trains at GJ though. He is a judo guy as well. Apparently they call him "Judo Jim" down there according to his wiki page. He had 4 amateur fights that he won by submission and 8 pro fights all won by submission. I haven't really looked up much about him. I just know Leroy sucks ass. I was really hoping he would fight Leonard Garcia because I know he would get killed. That would have been easy money. Hettes is still 12 for 12 with his sub wins and he is a judo guy so I would think he can take him down. It would be nice to see some visual proof though. I still will take him if he is a dog though. Who knows if he will be though.

[MMA_scientist]

As for Cerrone via decision, I may put more on it later, depending on Oliveira's line. I do like Oliveira to win, I think he is just a better fighter. I did not mean as a pure arb, I meant as a hedge against my Oliveira bet.

Edman, have you seen any footage of Hettes? Bruce Leroy is a can, he doesn't belong in the UFC IMO, or really any major org. Hettes needs to have some takedown skill though.

Pooppp, ss for Dolloway, he is turning into quite the grappler IMO. He has pretty nasty front chokes, but that pretty much requires the other guy to do the shooting. I can't stand his face, but he has a solid submission game and I like his wrestle/submit style. I don't remember much about Hamman though. What does he do?

[mike]

you could but remember arbing at the same book for free money is a quick way to get your account banned.

oh damn i didnt know u would get banned for doing that.
anyhoe what do u guys think of the ed herman vs kyle noke fight? leaning toward noke here. also whats the chance of an unknown fighter on the undercard throwing a fight because some vegas gangster offer him $100,000 to throw it. because thats the only way i see figeroa losing to jason reighart.

[sideloaded]

If your looking to bet cerrone by dec as an arb, why not just bet not cerrone inside distance.

you could but remember arbing at the same book for free money is a quick way to get your account banned.

[poopoo333]

That fight is @ UFC 134 lol

But unfortunately I think Schaub wins.

[edman5555]

it sounds like he had some hardcore injuries and surgeries. I still think even a fully healed Bignog has trouble with Schaub. He is just bad matchup for him. Hard to take down and faster and maybe even better striking. I wouldnt be suprised to see nog pull it off though.

[edman5555]

maybe he puts a cap on for the camera..

[edman5555]

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/8/7/2350106/ufc-134-finally-healthy-antonio-rodrigo-nogueira-ready-to-make-his

Heh. Watch this video. Big nogs front tooth is missing in the beginning, then at abou the 2:40 mark he has two front teeth.

[poopoo333]

I think Dollaway may be a solid bet. Hamman is an exciting fighter but is vulnerable to guys that can take him down and control him. Kingsbury did it well, and Wallace did it well even though he lost. Wallace went under cardiac arrest in that fight though and really allowed Hamman to turn it up and win the fight. Hamman is making his debut @ MW for this fight...he is gonna be a lanky MW which will probably be beneficial for Dollaway in getting him down. I don't think Hamman will be able to wrap Dollaway up and sub him though.

Thought?!!??!?!?!

[poopoo333]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hettes --- This guy is fighting Alex Caceres AKA Bruce Leroy. I think that Leroy is not very good tbh. All of his losses are by sub and all Hettes wins are by sub. I will be on Hettes to win.

I think the UFC is using this card to get rid of the two biggest cans in the UFC: Jason Reindhart and Bruce Leroy.

I am not sure what to make of Duane Ludwig/ Amir Sodollah. I am sure Sodollah will be the overwhelming fav. I thought Duane lost his fight against Osipczak. I wonder who has the better standup here, Amir or Duane. They both fought Muay thai but Duane prob has a lot more mileage/ wear and tear. He does have muay thai titles though. I think Amir will be the bigger guy in this one. I guess I have to lean Amir but I bet he will be -400 or so.

Videz/Wineland.. VIdez will probably be a big fav but Wineland is pretty good. He won a round against Faber who is similar to Benavidez. He will be bigger and with a longer reach as well. Tough one to call. Wineland might make a good dog bet. Bena will probably win though.

Castillo/Volkmann. This is a tough one to call. It will probably be close. I will take Volkmann if he is a dog.

I think Amir will win. His line is going to suck so I probably won't bet it. Amir seems to have a weakness against guys that can take him down and control him (DHK and Damarques Johnson in round 1 of their fight). I also think Osipczak won that fight. Ludwig is one of those fighters that are going out, Amir is one that is coming in...I agree with your "wear and tear" statement. The first round may be close, but I think Amir will take over. Ludwig gassed against Osipczak IIRC, and Ludwig should probably be fighting at lightweight.

Joseph Benavidez will probably win, but he didn't dominate against Ian Loveland like everyone thought....but then again Loveland seems pretty good. I think this will be a close fight and Wineland will probably get my bet if he is up @+275ish like I think he will be.

I will bet Castillo/Volkman goes decision prop if it comes out. I like Volkmann in that fight though but it will be close.

[Vandelay]

If your looking to bet cerrone by dec as an arb, why not just bet not cerrone inside distance.

[edman5555]

I am not sure what to make of Duane Ludwig/ Amir Sodollah. I am sure Sodollah will be the overwhelming fav. I thought Duane lost his fight against Osipczak. I wonder who has the better standup here, Amir or Duane. They both fought Muay thai but Duane prob has a lot more mileage/ wear and tear. He does have muay thai titles though. I think Amir will be the bigger guy in this one. I guess I have to lean Amir but I bet he will be -400 or so.

Videz/Wineland.. VIdez will probably be a big fav but Wineland is pretty good. He won a round against Faber who is similar to Benavidez. He will be bigger and with a longer reach as well. Tough one to call. Wineland might make a good dog bet. Bena will probably win though.

Castillo/Volkmann. This is a tough one to call. It will probably be close. I will take Volkmann if he is a dog.