Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

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  • MMA_scientist
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    I don't hear you guys calling for Brock to retire. He probably has more money that Roger, he got brutalized in his last fight and was never in it. He also has serious health problems and is older than Roger. You guys are racists.

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  • Svino
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    Originally posted by Vandelay
    How many of those guys make as much money as gracie does outside of fighting? gracie doesnt even need sponsors on his shorts. Ill be surprised if he fights in the ufc once zuffa absorbs strikeforce.
    He needs to come to the UFC so they can throw him in with Phil Davis.

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  • Vandelay
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    How many of those guys make as much money as gracie does outside of fighting? gracie doesnt even need sponsors on his shorts. Ill be surprised if he fights in the ufc once zuffa absorbs strikeforce.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Roger won't retire. Maybe he should, but he won't.

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  • Svino
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    There are only 2 or 3 guys in the 205 division that WILL be champ... so the rest of them should retire? GTFO, Roger can still be a top 10 fighter, and he probably will be. He is only 29, I don't rule out that he can be champion anyway. Guys get knocked out all the time, it is mma. Machida got brutally knocked out by Shogun, should he quit too? Rashad got brutally knocked out by Machida, Rampage got brutally knocked out by Shogun... maybe everyone but Jones should retire (actually, they probably should).
    Well, it will all come down to a matter of personal attitude. (How much he wants to be a fucking fighter, as Dana would say.) With all those other guys, they probably need the money and don't have some other sport where they are the best in the world that they can use to satisfy their competitive urges.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by Svino
    Next fight: Gracie vs. Romero.
    That would make sense, I hope they don't make that fight though. Roger needs to get at least one fight against someone without world class takedown defense.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    I mean, it is not like he just got brutalized and shown he can't compete. He got clipped with a well placed shot in a fight he was winning even though it was out of his comfort zone. I don't think it means he should retire. I mean, GSP got knocked out by the same shot.

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  • Svino
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    Next fight: Gracie vs. Romero.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by Vandelay
    and got knocked out brutally. U said it urself he doesnt need the money, and he probably wont ever be a champ so...
    There are only 2 or 3 guys in the 205 division that WILL be champ... so the rest of them should retire? GTFO, Roger can still be a top 10 fighter, and he probably will be. He is only 29, I don't rule out that he can be champion anyway. Guys get knocked out all the time, it is mma. Machida got brutally knocked out by Shogun, should he quit too? Rashad got brutally knocked out by Machida, Rampage got brutally knocked out by Shogun... maybe everyone but Jones should retire (actually, they probably should).

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  • poopoo333
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    Originally posted by Svino
    The real lesson from last night: Keep a close eye on BookMaker's live betting. They've got a new system where you can live-bet on specific fight endings as well as the fight winner and it is totally overloading the capabilities of the trained monkey they have tasked to adjust the lines. The lines aren't getting updated properly and I think BookMaker may have to scrap their new system. But until then...
    War Bookmaker's new live betting system.

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  • MMA_scientist
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    It is Roger's 5th fight, and his 5th straight wrestler. He won't hang it up. Maia didn't hang it up when he got blasted by Nate. Mo's 5th fight, he was fighting guys names Ryo Kawamura... no one was calling for Mo to hang it up when he stepped up and got stopped by Feijao. I think the expectations for Roger are unfair. He is an accomplished grappler, but he is still new to mma.

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  • Vandelay
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    Originally posted by MMA_scientist
    Let's not get carried away. He lost 1 fight to former champion who is the the worst possible style matchup for him.
    and got knocked out brutally. U said it urself he doesnt need the money, and he probably wont ever be a champ so...

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  • MMA_scientist
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    Originally posted by Vandelay
    Its fine. MMA isnt for everyone.
    Let's not get carried away. He lost 1 fight to former champion who is the the worst possible style matchup for him.

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  • Svino
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    Barnett's last 6 fights have all been against strikers with shit grappling. Last time he fought a decent wrestler was in 2008 against Monson. It will be interesting to see how he handles Cormier. BTW, Kharitnov actually turtled Barnett up with some heavy shots and may have come closer to winning that than we realize. I wouldn't be surprised if Cormier can stand with Barnett and win.

    I think people are being too hard on Gracie. Yes, he had absolutely nothing for King Mo, but I hope we see him fight some more. I want to see him lose to someone other than one of the best wrestlers in the division before he calls it quits.

    People were calling out Blanco on the head kicks before they happened. From Jordan Breen's chat:
    Comment From Canadian from Canada: How to you think Blanco's striking arsenal will be effected by the unified rules saying it is illegal to counter an armbar from the guard with a face stomp?

    Jordan Breen: It's sad with Blaco that we make these jokes, yet it's entirely possibly he'll flake out and do something like this. I can only hope he keeps his, uh, enthusiasm, in check.


    Mike Kyle's a little better than I thought. I was feeling good about my de Lima bet.

    Romero will be back stronger. Cavalcante was too much too soon and a bad matchup.

    Guys who I think need to go to the garbage heap after last night: Evangelista Santos, Dan Hornbuckle.

    The real lesson from last night: Keep a close eye on BookMaker's live betting. They've got a new system where you can live-bet on specific fight endings as well as the fight winner and it is totally overloading the capabilities of the trained monkey they have tasked to adjust the lines. The lines aren't getting updated properly and I think BookMaker may have to scrap their new system. But until then...

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  • SPX
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    I thought about that last night. Would be crazy if it hits. He still has to get through Barnett, though.


    Originally posted by poopoo333
    I will guess Cormier opens around -180

    If Cormier is -180 I will be on Barnett for sho.


    Originally posted by Luke
    I completely lost my ass on the card until the last fight,was down about 18 units and threw damn near every cent left in my 5dimes account on Cormier.....never been so glad to end up down 6 units for a event in my life. Was litterally ready to give up MMA betting.
    Well congrats on losing 6 units.

    Glad you don't have to give up on MMA now.

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