Strikeforce Semi Finals of HW GP

[MMA_scientist]

I am hoping they do the submission props. The best fights for those props are where there is an underdog that will not be submitted. 5D always messes the lines up. "Not Mo/Rockhold/Cormier/Sergei by submission" is airtight. If the odds are decent, I will go higher than usual, because there is no way on God's earth that Jacare, Roger, or Barnett will be submitted, there is almost no chance that Bigfoot will be submitted, but he does give his back up some.

Seriously, somone alert me when the sub prop lines come out. You have to get them early. I was looking over my last 3 months of sub props, and there some total steals in there (Not Cormier was a godo deal last time because he was a favorite over Monson, but there was no way he would sub him).

[Vandelay]

Distance props are out for the main card fights

[MMA_scientist]

^^ I agree, I am just worried about the difference in speed. One of those wild shots could get through. Roger is not nearly as explosive as Feijao. I think his clinch is aided by the fact that no one wants to tie up with him for fear of being taken down. So far, he has ONLY fought wrestlers that thought they could force a standup fight, and they don't even want to clinch. So he has been able to catch some knees on guys dropping the hips back to avoid the clinch. But Prangly and Randleman were way past their primes, and did not have the speed that Mo has.

That said, I do agree that Mo's striking is not very good... I just don't know if Roger will be able to get him down, I sort of doubt it.

[Luke]

My issue with the Mo dropping Roger idea is that Roger has never really been hit. He doesn't have much standup of his own, but I don't anyone has really laid a glove on him yet. I honestly don't think he has been punched yet, more than a glancing shot. I am not "all over" Roger here, as I do think Mo can win this, but I think it will have to be by decision.

Mo's boxing isnt that good imo.He throws wild,looping shots that can easily be stopped with a little head movement and a jab or straight right down the middle. Not to mention Gracie is the taller man so it will be even harder for Mo to hit him unless Gracie is leaning .

My guess is Mo throws some wild shots,misses badly, then Gracie takes him down while he's off balance. Also wouldnt surprise me if Gracie landed some big knees to Mo much like Cavalcante did to Mo in there fight,from what I've seen Gracie has a very good clinch.

[MMA_scientist]

Yeah, I will probably make a small play on Chandler @ +200. I don't actually think he will win though.

[poopoo333]

Yeah no current dogs really stick out to me besides those. I like Chandler though.

[MMA_scientist]

Will be on Cormier also, I think he can put Bogfoot down, and I think he can stand with him as well. I think Bigfoot could easily win that, but I like the odds on Cormier. I am thinking about hitting BJ pretty hard for a dog play in couple months. Other than those two, I don't see a lot of underdogs I think will win coming up.

[sbjj]

Yea, I like Cormier also. Could be a big play since my Schaub big play turned out so well.

My only advice on the bet would be that it might be wise to weight til after the weigh in. I think money could roll in on Silva due to his size advantage.

[poopoo333]

Me too. Gonna go big for a dog play

[Vandelay]

I'm liking what im hearing from cormier.

[MMA_scientist]

My issue with the Mo dropping Roger idea is that Roger has never really been hit. He doesn't have much standup of his own, but I don't anyone has really laid a glove on him yet. I honestly don't think he has been punched yet, more than a glancing shot. I am not "all over" Roger here, as I do think Mo can win this, but I think it will have to be by decision.

[Mr. IWS]

I am one of the people that thinks Mo will be able to keep it standing and will drop Gracie with punches. Even if it hits the mat I don't think it'll be instant submission, but if Gracie gets an advantageous position..he will probably end it.

Pretty much my thoughts as well.

[poopoo333]

Arguments for King Mo anyone?

I am one of the people that thinks Mo will be able to keep it standing and will drop Gracie with punches. Even if it hits the mat I don't think it'll be instant submission, but if Gracie gets an advantageous position..he will probably end it.

[Luke]

Arguments for King Mo anyone?

[poopoo333]

That's pretty scientific. How did you arrive at that figure?

womp womp