UFC 141 Ubereem vs Brock 12/30

[Ludo]

I would favor Brock if he didn't react so badly to getting hit hard. With his poor defense it's less and less likely he can fully stop Overeem from landing on him. Any time he's not pressing Reem against the fence is a time he's at major risk of getting rocked, sent running, and potentially on his back getting pounded on again.

[MMA_scientist]

I think there are questions about both guys. I slightly favor Brock I guess.

[Ludo]

Yeah, it's basically a gamble of: If Brock gets hit in the face once kind of hard, it's probably over. If Brock can get inside and work for a TD, Ubereem will probably get tired and get beat up. He was gassed against Werdum and they weren't really doing anything.

I'm thinking the same thing. Werdum was posing half assed takedowns from way outside and feeble attempts at pulling guard before he had a good hold on Reem. Brock will be pressing on him and making him really work to fend off the takedown. I think if Brock can keep Reem busy and against the fence for a whole round he should be able to take over in the second round.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, it's basically a gamble of: If Brock gets hit in the face once kind of hard, it's probably over. If Brock can get inside and work for a TD, Ubereem will probably get tired and get beat up. He was gassed against Werdum and they weren't really doing anything.

[Ludo]

I think if Brock can get the TD train started early on then he could definitely win. Like, if his very first takedown is successful, that might be all he needs. But if not then I guess he's fucked.

Unless he can go all Jake Shields and chain them to tire Overeem out. Once Reem's gas tank runs out, assuming it goes on that long, things could turn around quickly for Brock. That said I think Reem takes it. Brock reacts in the worst possible way to being hit hard and Reem is nothing but explosive strikes.

[SPX]

I kind of favor Brock, if he gets one TD, Ubereem will probably get tired.

I think if Brock can get the TD train started early on then he could definitely win. Like, if his very first takedown is successful, that might be all he needs. But if not then I guess he's fucked.

[AC88]

I'm taking Overeem. Brock is using Pat Barry solely for his sparring striking? Overeem has faced, sparred and beaten much more credible opponents. I can see Brock taking down Overeem but I think Overeem can take Brock down too honestly. Overeem's experience will play a huge factor. But one thing's for sure: whoever gets tired first will lose and lose horribly.

[poopoo333]

I kind of favor Brock, if he gets one TD, Ubereem will probably get tired.

[edman5555]

who do you guys favor in the brock/overeem fight? I guess I favor Overeem. Much better striker, good chokes, equal strength and decent takedown defense.

[poopoo333]

Really surprised to see Brock +135.

Line guesses on Fitch/Hendricks? And Grant/Volkmann is a real interesting fight..Grant looked great against a wrestler in Roller. How good are Nijem's takedowns?

[poopoo333]

The full UFC 141 card includes:

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

• Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem
• Donald Cerrone vs. Nate Diaz
• Jon Fitch vs. Johny Hendricks
• Alexander Gustafsson vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
• Jim Hettes vs. Nam Phan

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

• Junior Assuncao vs. Ross Pearson
• Ramsey Nijem vs. Anthony Njokuani

PRELIMINARY CARD

• Dong Hyun Kim vs. Sean Pierson
• T.J. Grant vs. Jacob Volkmann
• Luis Ramos vs. Matt Riddle
• Manny Gamburyan vs. Diego Nunes

[poopoo333]

[poopoo333]

I think Ramsey has a good shot...if he comes to grapple

[SPX]

Enjokeoohhahni should win that one, but Ramsey looked really good against Downes. Then again, he was fighting Danny Downes.

[poopoo333]

Anthony Njokuani vs. Ramsey Nijem In the Works for UFC 141