UFC 141 Ubereem vs Brock 12/30

[Ludo]

I would favor Brock if he didn't react so badly to getting hit hard. With his poor defense it's less and less likely he can fully stop Overeem from landing on him. Any time he's not pressing Reem against the fence is a time he's at major risk of getting rocked, sent running, and potentially on his back getting pounded on again.

[MMA_scientist]

I mean, he has defeated guys that can hit before. I think it is a little bit of an overreaction.

[Luke]

There shouldnt be any question on whether Brock can get Reem down or not.

[Ludo]

I mean, he has defeated guys that can hit before. I think it is a little bit of an overreaction.

I don't think it is really. Who has he fought that can hit as hard as Cain or Carwin? Mir has shown the ability to hit hard at times but never quite so devastatingly as Carwin. Aside from Mir you have Herring who had the takedown defense of Kyle Maynard that night. I would say Overeem hits just as hard if not harder than both Cain and Carwin, he will also be looking to land knee's which Brock has never had to deal with like this before. Barry is going to be helpful to a degree in dealing with the technique level itself but there's no accounting for Overeems raw power behind everything. The guy headhunts quite a bit, and he loves to load up.

[MMA_scientist]

Well Cain has never really shown any power before then, and he did survive the Carwin shot. Mir has shown just as much power as Cain- and really Randy has dropped HW's before too and so has Herring.

[Ludo]

Well Cain has never really shown any power before then, and he did survive the Carwin shot. Mir has shown just as much power as Cain- and really Randy has dropped HW's before too and so has Herring.

That combo Cain put on Minotauro was devastating. Randy dropped Tim Sylvia who wasn't expecting a punch to open up. Mir has shown just as much power as cain when he's 280lbs fighting Cheick Kongo. But Mir has never shown Carwin/Cain type power other than that shot on Kongo which he landed with his eyes closed. This is still a new breed of animal for Brock.

[poopoo333]

There shouldnt be any question on whether Brock can get Reem down or not.

I take it you think he can?

[Luke]

I take it you think he can?

Yeah

[Ludo]

Yeah

Now girls jumping on trampolines!

[poopoo333]

Yeah

Me too. Did you change your mind on this fight? I thought you liked Overeem when it was first announced

[MMA_scientist]

I thought it was 50/50... but I am really starting to lean Brock.

[poopoo333]

Bet on Brock and hedge with Ubereem KO of the night

[MMA_scientist]

That might be a way to go. I doubt Overeem can KO him cold though. I am probably going to make a play on Brock as long as he stays in + odds

[poopoo333]

+155 @ Bodog looks nice

[SPX]

I thought it was 50/50... but I am really starting to lean Brock.

It's one of those fights that's 50/50 only because there are too many factors to know how it's going to go. But on fight night one guy or the other may very well dominate.