TUF 14 Finale

[poopoo333]

Yves Edwards vs. Tony Ferguson added to December's The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale

and Bisping vs Mayhem obviously

[poopoo333]

Thoughts on Bisping/Mayhem?

[SPX]

I really think Mayhem might be able to put him on his back enough to win a decision, but I'm not super-confident or anything.

[MMA_scientist]

Thoughts on Bisping/Mayhem?

I think Mayhem will have to beat him standing personally. Mayhem doesn't have super strong takedowns and Bisping is pretty hard to take down. I do think Mayhem's striking is better than most people think and that he could win a decision. I think the line might be off a little, but Mayhem hasn't fought a striker in like 5 years. So who knows...

[Vandelay]

This should be a 5 rounder correct? Either way neither guy is known for their power, so i like it to go to a decision.

[poopoo333]

I read it was a 5 rounder. I like Bisping to win a decision

[MMA_scientist]

Yep, neither guy has a lot of power, and neither guy really gasses. I think it is somewhat closer than the line indicates though. Is Bisping really a good striker? I know he was all valley karate champ or whatever, but he gets rocked all the time and I don't really remember him really ever putting a standup clinic on anyone. Mayhem can probably hang with him standing, though may come up a little short in every round.

[SPX]

. . . and I don't really remember him really ever putting a standup clinic on anyone.

Leben

[poopoo333]

Leben

Dan Miller

Jorge Rivera

Akiyama

[MMA_scientist]

^^ I guess. I just recall him getting hurt by Rivera standing, Wand almost put him away in rd 3, Kang dropped him, Hammill hurt him a couple times, of course Hendo leveled him... for a guy that tries to outpoint people on the outside, he gets hit hard in the head a lot.

[MMA_scientist]

Dan Miller

Jorge Rivera

Akiyama

Rivera dropped Bisping twice, he won the fight... but in now way did he dominate or put a clinic on.
I guess you could call Miller a "clinic", but then Maia also put a boxing clinic on Dan Miller.
Akiyama is a can.

[poopoo333]

Rivera dropped Bisping twice.

wut

[MMA_scientist]

wut

I thought he dropped him twice, I have only seen teh fight once... apparently he only dropped him once, and wobbled him once. Either way, it was back and forth and Bisping was eating shots.

Round 1
Marc Goddard is the referee for the middleweight co-main event, and he gets to work early, stepping between Bisping and Rivera as Bisping wanders into the Octagon and toward the American corner. There is no touch of gloves in the final instructions, nor as the fight begins. Both men rush to the center of the cage and meet, with Rivera firing first. His big right hand glances and Bisping returns fire with a one-two. Another right from Rivera and Bisping goes low, plowing Rivera down to the ground with a double-leg. Bisping grabs the cage as he attempts to mount and is warned. No matter, as they’re soon back on the feet with Rivera throwing up his arms. Rivera’s right hand finds its mark again, stumbling the Brit and prompting him to shoot again. Rivera stuffs this one, but falls to another attempt seconds later. Bisping scoots Rivera around in guard and lands short elbows. Bisping stands and drills his left knee into the forehead of Rivera, who is clearly grounded on both knees. Marc Goddard halts the action instantly and the doctors rush to check on Rivera, who was not knocked out cold, but does appear dazed. They ask Rivera to stand and he does. Goddard asks Rivera if he can continue, and Rivera asserts that he can. Goddard docks Bisping a point for the infraction and the action resumes with two minutes left in the opening round. Rivera clocks Bisping with a right hook. Bisping shoots and is stuffed. He throws hands for a minute, landing a few rights, and then finds success on another takedown attempt. He stands and throws downward at Rivera, who eats a few punches while scrambling back to his feet.

Jordan Breen scores the round 9-9
Tomasz Marciniak scores the round 10-9 Rivera
Jeff Sherwood scores the round 9-9

Round 2
A cracking right hand from Rivera sends Bisping backward to the canvas, but the Brit quickly regains his legs. He snaps a stiff left jab off in Rivera’s face. Now it’s a series of huge, wind-up right hooks by Bisping. Rivera is covering up on his feet and Bisping begins mixing it up, alternating punches and short elbows to the head and body. One big right hook drops Rivera to a knee, and a few more punches seal the deal, as Goddard calls it off at 1:54 of the second round. Bisping immediately rushes to and appears to spit at Rivera’s corner, and then comes back toward Rivera, who is still on the ground. Goddard gets between them. Bisping has some words for Rivera -- “Go home, loser,” among them -- but the two do hesitantly embrace after cooling down.

[edman5555]

One thing about Mayhem is his grappling ability is pretty good. He almost choked out Jake shields..but he also got tko'd by frank trigg.

[MMA_scientist]

One thing about Mayhem is his grappling ability is pretty good. He almost choked out Jake shields..but he also got tko'd by frank trigg.

No doubt. Miller has very good grappling, especially his defense. He grappled with Jacare nearly the entire time and survived (he got dominated, but he didn't get tapped out). Even though he has a wiry guard, he doesn't really submit guys from there... he is really more of a top player. If he can get Bisping down, I think he could submit him for sure. I doubt he can get him from guard though.