UFC 143

[MMA_scientist]

Since always. GSP got his BB from Renzo and it was an issue of contention in the Serra fights, since Serra is also a Renzo Gracie BB.

[Ludo]

well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.

Since when does GSP train at Renzo's? I've heard of GSP going to train with Roger in the UK and training with Renzo for the fight with Shields but as far as I've ever known he does most of his training in Montreal with select members of Jacksons going up there to help him prepare. Frankie trains in Jersey with Pellegrino and Almeida mainly. I don't think Frankie is a mainstay member of Renzo's team. Even if he was I doubt GSP would have a problem fighting him. Like I said the majority of GSP's training occurs in canada where he brings people in to help him.

[SPX]

well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.

GSP at 155 would just be bizarre. I can't even imagine it.

[Ludo]

well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.

GSP's trainer said he would prefer St Pierre to move down than up but the notion is a ridiculous one.

[zY|]

GSP has 'cleaned the division out' about 3 times. There will always be somebody.

[edman5555]

well gsps trainer came out and said his frame is not big enough for 185 and he would most likely go down to 155 if he moved, depending on whether or not frankei edgar is champ. They both train at renzo's. Also rory trains with Gsp and considers him a mentor.

[Ludo]

Yes, GSP is close to clearing out the division, but by the time he's beaten Condit and Ellenberger, Rory McDonald might be in line, and then by the time he's beaten McDonald there will be someone new that's climbing up through the ranks. Basically, there will always be SOMEONE you can make an argument for.

Just because guys like Fitch and Koscheck have gotten beaten and badly by GSP doesn't mean Condit, Ellenberger, and Macdonald necessarily DESERVE a title shot. Ellenberger has a decent case having just beaten Shields but Condit hasn't beaten a single high ranked contender other than possibly Ellenberger in his UFC stretch.

[SPX]

Yes, GSP is close to clearing out the division, but by the time he's beaten Condit and Ellenberger, Rory McDonald might be in line, and then by the time he's beaten McDonald there will be someone new that's climbing up through the ranks. Basically, there will always be SOMEONE you can make an argument for.

[Ludo]

Well GSP could go down to lightweight and Kos can move up to 185 so its not totally impossible. He can even fight for the title again with 4 or 5 good wins. He will come to wrestle though, maybe G and P?

GSP will go up to Middleweight before he goes down to Lightweight. His frame is too big for 155 anyway. By the time Koscheck has enough steam for a title shot again GSP will have vacated the title after clearing the whole division out(which he's about two fights away from right now).

[edman5555]

Well GSP could go down to lightweight and Kos can move up to 185 so its not totally impossible. He can even fight for the title again with 4 or 5 good wins. He will come to wrestle though, maybe G and P?

[MMA_scientist]

I was pretty amazed at Condit's ability to sweep DHK, although he did get taken down. Koscheck's title hopes are dead, so I think there is a good chance he become a bonus hunter and just tries to bang.

[SPX]

Condit may be "dangerous" but he's always been weak in the wrestling department and Kos is one of the best wrestlers in the division. I really don't see him having a huge problem exploiting that opening.

With that said, if Kos comes to box then he may very well lose. I guess it all depends on how smart he fights.

[edman5555]

condit is pretty dangerous. i wouldnt bet Kos.

[Luke]

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[Luke]

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