UFC 144: Japan

[SPX]

So according to you guys Rory Macdonald should be getting first crack at Condit,not GSP or Ellenberger?

C'mon, you have to admit that there some extenuating circumstances here, with him having already been promised a title shot once and getting screwed by the Edgar/Maynard draw and also by the fact that Pettis has a win over him. It's not like giving someone like Lauzon a shot if he had won last night.

[Svino]

He had 7 Td's compared to 2 and out-landed Bendo 124-114 AND some sites scored it for Edgar.

I assume that those are the Compustrike numbers? Interesting that they are so different from Fightmetric's, which have Bendo outlanding Edgar 100-81, and the takedowns at 5-1.

[zY|]

"dominated by Guida"

When was this? That wasn't the fight I saw.

And who would you prefer fight for the title instead?

Miller/Diaz winner? That fight isn't until May. Too long. And Henderson actually did dominate Miller just 2 fights ago, so he doesn't deserve a shot either. Short of bringing Gil over, there's really no one more deserving than Pettis at this snapshot in time.

[Luke]

Even if Edgar edged out Bendo in number of strikes landed, it wasn't by much and Bendo clearly landed the harder shots and by far did more damage. In my mind, that better represents "effective striking" in a full-contact sport. And those TDs were pretty much useless since Bendo popped right back up.

In the fight I saw, Frankie spent the vast majority of the fight getting beaten up like he was Bendo's little brother and he had just told on Bendo to his mom.

Well by that statement all the hard shots Bendo landed shouldnt count either because Edgar just kept coming forward after getting hit .

[SPX]

Well by that statement all the hard shots Bendo landed shouldnt count either because Edgar just kept coming forward after getting hit .

Those hard shots represented effective striking. Those takedowns did not represent effective grappling.

[zY|]

I assume that those are the Compustrike numbers? Interesting that they are so different from Fightmetric's, which have Bendo outlanding Edgar 100-81, and the takedowns at 5-1.

Compustrike is live from cageside, hence the disparity. Probably have a different definition of what constitutes a successful takedown, as well.

[Luke]

C'mon, you have to admit that there some extenuating circumstances here, with him having already been promised a title shot once and getting screwed by the Edgar/Maynard draw and also by the fact that Pettis has a win over him. It's not like giving someone like Lauzon a shot if he had won last night.

Here we go.................the rules only apply when you want them to.I understand, hypocrite .

[Svino]

Miller/Diaz winner? That fight isn't until May. Too long. And Henderson actually did dominate Miller just 2 fights ago, so he doesn't deserve a shot either. Short of bringing Gil over, there's really no one more deserving than Pettis at this snapshot in time.

It's weird, because we've been accustomed to thinking of LW as this super-deep division and the best we can do is Pettis. BTW, does Maynard have a fight lined up?

[Luke]

Those hard shots represented effective striking. Those takedowns did not represent effective grappling.

So its not a TD if they get back up? Damn, someone should tell the wrestling scoring system they are all fucked up.

[zY|]

Yeah, there's a ton of great LWs but most of them are coming off of losses at the moment.

[Svino]

Compustrike is live from cageside, hence the disparity. Probably have a different definition of what constitutes a successful takedown, as well.

Yeah, the usual definition of a TD is that you have to establish control of your opponent (or their hips) on the ground, just putting them down doesn't count. Several times, Edgar threw Bendo to the ground without trying to establish control and I think that was a big mistake from a scoring standpoint.

[Luke]

And if you can't beat freaking Clay Guida you don't deserve a title shot I don't care what anyone says

[zY|]

Ooh how bout Jacob Volkmann. Christmas is 5-0 at LW.

[Svino]

Ooh how bout Jacob Volkmann. Christmas is 5-0 at LW.

They need to get him some tougher fights. Apparently, he's fighting Paul Sass at UFC 146.

[zY|]

BTW

Y'all musta forgot