National Championship game should be OU/TX

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  • Luke
    10 year vet
    • Oct 2006
    • 30060

    #31
    Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

    If what happens on the field doesnt matter then whats the point of ever having a playoff?
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    • Luke
      10 year vet
      • Oct 2006
      • 30060

      #32
      Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

      Timbob I would like to know why if TX played OU again that you think the result would be any different?

      OU still has no defense so wouldnt be able to stop TX on offense and with TX having a top defense they would again slow down the OU offense enough to win .Are you impressed because OU put 61 on OSU? Are you not scratching your head on why a top team would give up 41 points to them?


      Why OU would win if they played again ?Simple question anyone answer not just timbob, the only reason I pointed him out because he is the only one in this thread that thinks the better team went to the championship game.I like hearing both sides
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      • Mr. IWS
        215 Hustler
        • Sep 2006
        • 99903

        #33
        Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

        It wouldnt suprise me at all if OU won that game if they played again.

        OU was controlling the first 3 quarters, Texas got a kickoff return for a TD, and they dropped an INT in the endzone that would have killed a second half drive for Texas.

        It was really a 3 point game for Texas when they got a late TD to push it to 10.
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        • Luke
          10 year vet
          • Oct 2006
          • 30060

          #34
          Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

          I heard ESPN say a lot of conferences tie breaker is :

          In the event of a 3 way tie the lowest BCS score team is eliminated and then they go by head to head to decide between the last two remaining teams
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          • Vanquisher
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 838

            #35
            Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

            I personally think Texas should be going because they were 1 play away from having a perfect season. I dont think people should look into point differential because some teams try to run up scores and other coaches play more conservative and there are pointless points scored at end of games etc...

            But for the record I think Oklahoma is a better team but based on the current system I think Texas should be the one going to the Big 12 championship game.
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            • HUSKERPOWER
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 1136

              #36
              Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

              just today i heard on local radio BIG 12 will be looking into changing the tie breaker system they currently are using


              Texas beat OU , IMO that should be the tiebreaker , SHOULD BE but i do think they have the correct team in the BIG 12 championship, i think OU is hitting on all cylinders right now and whole heartedley deserves to be in the game thats just my feeling on it, no real hard facts just think OU deserves to be there
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              • Mr. IWS
                215 Hustler
                • Sep 2006
                • 99903

                #37
                Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                Originally posted by HUSKERPOWER
                just today i heard on local radio BIG 12 will be looking into changing the tie breaker system they currently are using


                Texas beat OU , IMO that should be the tiebreaker , SHOULD BE but i do think they have the correct team in the BIG 12 championship, i think OU is hitting on all cylinders right now and whole heartedley deserves to be in the game thats just my feeling on it, no real hard facts just think OU deserves to be there
                The problem is, using that same analogy, Texas Tech should be ahead of Texas becasue they beat Texas.

                This whole thing is like a dog chasing his tail.
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                • Luke
                  10 year vet
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 30060

                  #38
                  Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                  Originally posted by HUSKERPOWER
                  just today i heard on local radio BIG 12 will be looking into changing the tie breaker system they currently are using


                  Texas beat OU , IMO that should be the tiebreaker , SHOULD BE but i do think they have the correct team in the BIG 12 championship, i think OU is hitting on all cylinders right now and whole heartedley deserves to be in the game thats just my feeling on it, no real hard facts just think OU deserves to be there

                  Is their defense hitting on all cylinders? They just gave up 41 to OSU. Too many people IMO are saying Oklahoma is playing better by looking at their offense and forgetting their defense has gave up some huge numbers in games

                  Oklahoma has no chance IMO of winning the BCS title as soon as they play a good defense they are done. Texas has a better chance to defeat Florida or Bama but thats just my opinion
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                  • Mr. IWS
                    215 Hustler
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 99903

                    #39
                    Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                    Oklahoma gives up 24.8 ppg and 30.6 over their last 5
                    Texas gives up 18.6 ppg and 20 over their last 5

                    I dont think that Oklahoma's defense is as bad though. They have given up
                    4 KO returns for TD and a lot of yards per return so they start out with bad
                    field possition a lot. That was definatly hurting there numbers and it really
                    hurt in the Ok state game.

                    If you look at the Tech game, they held the top scoring offense to really
                    nothing except a meaningless TD against the 2nd and 3rd teamers. Same for the A&M and
                    Nebraska games.

                    I cant find any site that has the yards the defenses have given up, so if anyone
                    has a like, I would like to look at that too.
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                    • Mr. IWS
                      215 Hustler
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 99903

                      #40
                      Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                      O.k. I found that foxsports has the numbers I was looking for.

                      OU gives up 109.8 on the ground, Tex gives up 73.6
                      OU gives up 249.7 in the air, Tex gives up 266.3
                      OU gives up 359.5 total, Tex gives up 339.9

                      Thats a difference of 20.4 yards per game.

                      OU has the better 3rd down defense, holding opponents to 30.4% vs Texas 35.1%

                      I think Texas has the better defense, but not by that much. OU special teams are horrible,
                      and I think that is what will kill them if they play a team like Florida, they way they run kicks
                      and punts back.
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                      • Luke
                        10 year vet
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 30060

                        #41
                        Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                        If OU plays Florida I think Florida will be a 6-7 point favorite

                        If OU plays Bama I think OU will be a 3 point fav
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                        • slimskinny
                          Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 49

                          #42
                          Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                          luke,psu already beat orst by 30,and ut played ou,I think playoff system is the way 2 go but has 2 b seperated,cant have pac 10,always play big ten in rose bowl it should b like a lottery sytm.
                          luck of the draw,ball st might play ou,but they might b inferior to ou,but if u look back the last 3 bowl games OU has not faired well.
                          routed by usc.beaten by bost,and WV,so anything is possible.I think there is 2 much politics involved and it really doesnt matter
                          what the majority thinks,its all about $$$$ & greed!!

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                          • Luke
                            10 year vet
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 30060

                            #43
                            Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                            I was looking through the BCS and something close to this happened in 2000.

                            That year FSU was beat by Miami but somehow ended up #2 in the BCS and Miami ended up #3

                            Each team had one loss that season Miami lost by 5 to #4 in the BCS Washington the second game of the season

                            and FSU lost to Miami the 5th game of the season by 3 .

                            FSU's loss was later in the season than Miami's but still ended up ahead of Miami is the final BCS and got to play for the title.


                            The BCS
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                            • Mr. IWS
                              215 Hustler
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 99903

                              #44
                              Re: National Championship game should be OU/TX

                              Originally posted by Luke


                              The BCS

                              I think we all agree on that.
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