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  • Ludo
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4931

    Originally posted by SPX
    I've heard of plenty of people getting stun gunned, and never once did they go unconscious. Those dudes must have been some serious pussies.
    It's possible they were just disoriented and dazed as well as exhausted from the attack. Stun guns work by directing current through the muscles which makes them work rapidly with rapid pauses between normal functions, which is why when being tased you often can't control yourself. Another thing it does is it turns body sugars into lactic acid almost instantly because of the high workrate of the muscles. After 3-5 seconds of being tased it's not uncommon for the person to be disoriented and a loss of balance for up to several minutes.
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    • SPX
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 23875

      I have heard all that.

      What I would like to know is how the fuck he was able to get three different guys. What were these other dudes doing while he was stunning the first guy? I need the full story here.

      Also, I've heard a lot of stories of tazers not really doing much of anything other than pissing the person off who's getting tazed. I have a friend who got pulled over for a DUI and the cops tazed him three times and he said it was unpleasant, but that's about it.
      Last edited by SPX; 01-24-2012, 05:21 PM.
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      • Ludo
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 4931

        Originally posted by SPX
        I have heard all that.

        What I would like to know is how the fuck he was able to get three different guys. What were these other dudes doing while he was stunning the first guy? I need the full story here.
        hopefully they were in different rooms, either that or by the time he got the first guy they were still trying to figure out what was in his hand in which case they are terrible examples of men. The taser doesn't make a noise like anything else really, so if you've never heard it before you wouldn't be able to make the connection and just be like "yeah, he has a taser".
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        • MMA_scientist
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 9857

          To be fair, it was like 8 years ago... they may have just been really weak, but I thought they went unconscious. I know one guy testified that when he came to, she was already gone. I remember that he hid behind the door and got the first guy that way. I don't recall the rest of the details, but it wasn't like he snuck up on the other guy(s) (I actually don't know whether it was 2 or 3 guys plus the girl).

          The guy was a little shit too. Little skinny guy, not a fighter.

          It was in the paper, I will see if I can find the article.
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          • sbjj
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 1418

            Scientist. Did you see AAPL earnings...Holy mother of God. I sold after hours.

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            • MMA_scientist
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 9857

              No, I haven't seen. I am going to go along for the ride though.
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              • sbjj
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 1418

                I am buying back in. Just trying to get a better price.

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                • SPX
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 23875

                  BTW Scientist, I have been watching that Takedowns and Falls documentary, and I officially don't understand wrestling. Whenever someone wins, I can often not tell WHY they win, and in many cases the guy that it looks like wins to me is declared the loser.
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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    As a footnote to our American Ninja celebratory gripe-fest, here’s a mystifying trade ad from what has to be the early part of 1985, wherein Cannon heralded an upcoming project:







                    Right studio, right producers, right creative team, right title, right logo. BUT… what the hell?

                    Now trade ads are always talking shit. They run in industry-only newsrags promoting movies as if the deals are set in stone, sometimes implying they’re in the can, but the reality is these ads are often window dressing for the money hunt. Would-be producers work these things up to stir interest or tip on-the-fence investors over the edge. More often that not the movie promised never gets made or mutates into something way different.

                    So was “American Ninja” a Sho Kosugi lvehicle at one point, or were they just coyly suggesting that he might be involved in a pending deal. Or did they just see his image as their’s to use regardless of his involvement or lack thereof? Kosugi had left Cannon at this point for what turned out to be far less greener pastures, so maybe this was an attempt to lure him back?

                    The “American Ninja” title has a shadowy history of its own, too. I have an image stuck in my head of one of these trade ads I saw years ago wherein a Chuck Norris project carried the same name, and would kill to find it somewhere (if it even exists). Maybe it became The Octagon? Kosugi’s own 9 Deaths of the Ninja was called “American Ninja” in some European markets. And the American Ninja we know and love was actually called “American Warrior” during development and as late as the trailer, changing titles at the 11th hour (the ‘Warrior’ title remained in some foreign releases).

                    . . .

                    UPDATE:

                    Man thanks to VN reader Dan for the following clarifications:

                    “In regards to the whole Sho Kosugi / American Ninja thing, here’s how it went down from what I remember reading and subsequently pieced together. The trade ad you have of Cannon’s “American Ninja” project featuring Sho was likely done before he left Cannon (possibly during post-production on NINJA III), so they undoubtely planned to have their #1 ninja star in the film (possibly in the role that went to Tadashi Yamashita). After Sho left Cannon they planned to getChuck Norris to star as the “American Ninja” (as seen in the attached trade ad), but obviously that didn’t work out and they got Michael Dudikoff. Meanwhile, Sho filmed his first non-Cannon movie, a film with the working title “American Ninja”, which was written and directed by “Enter the Ninja” 2nd Unit Director Emmett Alston. The movie was released as “9 Deaths of the Ninja” and Cannon’s “American Warrior” was therefore able to reclaim the “American Ninja” title and did so (at least in most markets). By the way, you can’t really tell from the attached pic, but the ninja gi Chuck is wearing is the same one worn by David Chung, Lucinda Dickey, and Alan Amiel (their fight double) in NINJA III… The Black Ninja outfit which is really grayish-green. Pretty wild, huh?”



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                    • SPX
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 23875

                      I'd join this shit right now if they would let me. . .


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                      • sbjj
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1418

                        Fuck Michael Dudikoff. Farthest thing from a Ninja one could think of.

                        Sylvestor Stallone in Italian Ninja. Guest appearance by Ralph Macchio as Lil Italy Ninja.

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                        • SPX
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 23875

                          Dudikoff really was a horrible fucking ninja. He wasn't even a martial artist and his technique was shit. But can you really imagine anyone else in that role at this point?
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                          • edman5555
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 6628

                            Fedor vs Bobby Lashley announced.
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              There's already a thread for that.
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                              • sbjj
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 1418

                                Originally posted by SPX
                                Dudikoff really was a horrible fucking ninja. He wasn't even a martial artist and his technique was shit. But can you really imagine anyone else in that role at this point?
                                Can not even imagine a ninja movie at this point. Their time has passed. Ninja Assassin was pure trash.

                                Anybody see the movie they are playing on cable starring Stephan Bonnar....LOL! Priceless.

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