UFC 152

[MMA_scientist]

I'm probably going to bet Grant actually.

And as for Vinny..he looked like shit in M1 too. He is gonna lose

Well you are going to lose bitch.

Yep, Vinny is a can, he doesn't belong... I am just always leery of betting a favorite when the other guy has a clear out.

[SPX]

I admit that I'm tempted to bet some of these guys at less-than-ideal lines just because it's been so long.

[poopoo333]

I'm probably going to bet Grant actually.

And as for Vinny..he looked like shit in M1 too. He is gonna lose

[MMA_scientist]

I dunno. In 33 fights Igor's only lost once by submission and that was five years ago. Granted, he hasn't really been fighting any submission machines--at least not in the UFC--but I actually wouldn't be surprised if Vinny can't even get him down. In fact, I kind of expect Igor to finish him.

Yeah, I kind of expect Vinny to get stuffed on takedowns, and try to pull guard and get pounded out. But I would not be shocked to see the ADCC HW champion submit Igor (or anyone, he pretty much always has that out).

[SPX]

3. I don't even think about betting favorites where the dog has a huge edge in one area. I think Igor will win, but would not be surprised to see Vinny sub him.

I dunno. In 33 fights Igor's only lost once by submission and that was five years ago. Granted, he hasn't really been fighting any submission machines--at least not in the UFC--but I actually wouldn't be surprised if Vinny can't even get him down. In fact, I kind of expect Igor to finish him.

[SPX]

2. I really think Grant will keep it close. It's going to be a pretty competitive fight imo, Grant has looked great at LW. However, I think Dunham will be able to steal rounds with takedowns of his own. He is a better wrestler (in MMA) then Shane Roller and I feel Dunham will be able to get the decision win in a competitive fight. I can get his at -185 right now, but I'm going to wait to see if it gets better.

The only fight of Grant's that really comes to mind for me is against Carlo Prater and I wasn't particularly impressed. I think Dunham will either outwrestle him or just keep it on the feet and outstrike him.

3. I really think Igor wins, but I am really surprised he is such a big favorite. I was hoping the public would back Vinny and the line would be good for Igor.

I can't say I'm particularly shocked. For one, the impression most people Stateside probably have of Vinny is that "he's that guy that got murdered by Bader and lost a decision to Eliot Marshall." I doubt many beyond the hardest of the hard cores have seen any of his M-1 fights.

Igor's been doing pretty good. I really expect him to win this. My one concern, of course, is that he gets caught in a sub.

5. I didn't look at this fight when I broke this whole card down, but based on memory I think Benoist will have a slight advantage.

Pierson seems like he may be one of those dark horses. Sure, he came up short against DHK and Ellenberger, but he pretty much walked through Riddle and Hecht. He might be one of those guys who will lose to the upper echelon but beat most everyone else.

[MMA_scientist]

1. I think Oliviera wins by submission, but I am not as confident as the oddsmakers either. I don't think Swanson wins though.

2. Agreed, Dunham is tempting. He should have the edge everywhere, I think Grant will keep it close, but Dunham will just be a little better everywhere.

3. I don't even think about betting favorites where the dog has a huge edge in one area. I think Igor will win, but would not be surprised to see Vinny sub him.

4. Brenneman or bust.

5. Who?

[poopoo333]

1. I'm not as confident as the oddsmakers are that Oliveira is going to blow through Swanson.

2. I'm tempted to bet Dunham at -200.

3. If Igor hits -200 I'll probably bet him.

4. Noke seems like he might be worth a dog bet.

5. Anyone got a breakdown on Pierson/Benoist?

1. I think Swanson has a very legit shot at winning. I will be betting him.

2. I really think Grant will keep it close. It's going to be a pretty competitive fight imo, Grant has looked great at LW. However, I think Dunham will be able to steal rounds with takedowns of his own. He is a better wrestler (in MMA) then Shane Roller and I feel Dunham will be able to get the decision win in a competitive fight. I can get his at -185 right now, but I'm going to wait to see if it gets better.

3. I really think Igor wins, but I am really surprised he is such a big favorite. I was hoping the public would back Vinny and the line would be good for Igor.

4. I don't think so..I like Brenneman in this one. I don't want to bet him straight, I might parlay him.

5. I didn't look at this fight when I broke this whole card down, but based on memory I think Benoist will have a slight advantage.

[SPX]

1. I'm not as confident as the oddsmakers are that Oliveira is going to blow through Swanson.

2. I'm tempted to bet Dunham at -200.

3. If Igor hits -200 I'll probably bet him.

4. Noke seems like he might be worth a dog bet.

5. Anyone got a breakdown on Pierson/Benoist?

[zY|]

Doesnt this clown owe you money on the Brock/Cain fight?

Different clown, but yes, natman from Sherdog owes me $200.

[poopoo333]

Well if it's "right" then it's not bettable because there's no value.

I was really hoping to get Hettes around -250.

I expected -550 to be honest..it's a total mismatch. As long as Hettes doesn't get clipped on his way in, he will be dominate

[Mr. IWS]

BTW, I'd just like to say that I am goddamned thrilled that we're going to get to watch some UFC action this weekend.

[SPX]

BTW, I'd just like to say that I am goddamned thrilled that we're going to get to watch some UFC action this weekend.

[SPX]

Well if it's "right" then it's not bettable because there's no value.

I was really hoping to get Hettes around -250.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, Igor's line is way too steep. I thought it would open around even. Hettes -400 area is about right imo.