UFC 154

[Vandelay]

lol he doesnt. Mayb a bs hometown decision if he makes it the distance. I want to see Costa vs shields, lombard, munoz, etc. basically one of the top 10.

[poopoo333]

lol he doesnt. Mayb a bs hometown decision if he makes it the distance.

Ha yeah...I had a huge bet on Ring over McGee and was positive I lost until they read the decision.

[edman5555]

Nick ring is a good kickboxer isnt he?

[SPX]

Phillipou opens at at least -300 here. Ring got wrestlefucked by Fukuda and Fukuda didn't take Phillippou down even once.

Will that even matter? Do you expect Costa to take him down? I think if anyone tries to take anybody down it will be Ring shooting in.

This fight will be contested on the feet. I expect Costa to win but Ring has a way of standing outside and sniping and getting the judges to rule in his favor. He did it against Fukuda . . . he did it against McGee . . . it's not out of the question that he'll do it again here against Phillipou.

[Ludo]

Will that even matter? Do you expect Costa to take him down? I think if anyone tries to take anybody down it will be Ring shooting in.

This fight will be contested on the feet. I expect Costa to win but Ring has a way of standing outside and sniping and getting the judges to rule in his favor. He did it against Fukuda . . . he did it against McGee . . . it's not out of the question that he'll do it again here against Phillipou.

Well seeing as Ring was barely hanging on with Boetsch striking his only way to win is to hold Costa down. If he can't work some kind of grappling in he's going to get blasted out.

[SPX]

Don't get me wrong, I favor Costa. And I hope he wins. He's made me something of a fan.

But Ring took round one away from Boetsch and managed to get decisions both against Fukuda and McGee. I'm just saying that it wouldn't be an earth-trembling shock to see him do the same thing here. The dude is like the Leonard Garcia of middleweight.

[Ludo]

Don't get me wrong, I favor Costa. And I hope he wins. He's made me something of a fan.

But Ring took round one away from Boetsch and managed to get decisions both against Fukuda and McGee. I'm just saying that it wouldn't be an earth-trembling shock to see him do the same thing here. The dude is like the Leonard Garcia of middleweight.

Yes but let's not pretend anyone other than the blind judges thought he won against Fukuda.

[SPX]

I though Fukuda kicked his ass. It was a robbery.

You could make an argument for Ring winning rounds 1 and 2 against McGee, though.

[Ludo]

I though Fukuda kicked his ass. It was a robbery.

You could make an argument for Ring winning rounds 1 and 2 against McGee, though.

I agree the McGee fight was closer by a significant margin overall than the Fukuda fight. I had a hard time seeing even one round in Ring's favor against Fukuda and I had money on Ring in that fight.

[poopoo333]

Welterweight	Georges St-Pierre (c)	vs	Carlos Condit (ic)				Note 1
Welterweight	Martin Kampmann	vs	Johny Hendricks
Middleweight	Francis Carmont	vs	Tom Lawlor
Light Heavyweight	Cyrille Diabaté	vs	Chad Griggs
Featherweight	Mark Hominick	vs	Pablo Garza
Middleweight	Patrick Côté	vs	Alessio Sakara
Lightweight	Sam Stout	vs	John Makdessi
Lightweight	Mark Bocek	vs	Rafael dos Anjos
Featherweight	Antonio Carvalho	vs	Rodrigo Damm
Bantamweight	Ivan Menjivar	vs	Azamat Gashimov
Welterweight	Stephen Thompson	vs	Besam Yousef
Featherweight	Steven Siler	vs	Darren Elkins

[poopoo333]

GSP/Condit: GSP has question marks surrounding him with the long layoff/serious injury. I think he matches up great stylistically with Condit and should win. I think he has the striking edge and the wrestling/grappling edge. Condit has shown weakness to wrestlers in the past and GSP fights to his opponents weaknesses and I think he will look to take the fight down. I think it will look like a bit more competitive of a fight than GSP/Alves was actually. However, with the ACL injury and the layoff, I wouldn't bet GSP straight at around -350 or whatever he is. I might bet him by decision if it gets to around even money. I actually have a tiny bet on Condit by decision @+1015 right now but I fully expect it to lose.

Martin Kampmann vs Johnny Hendricks: This fight is very hard to call in my opinion. I originally thought Hendricks would be able to get into Kampmann's face, close the distance, land some big shots and get some takedowns. However, Hendricks has good credentials but he really hasn't seemed to translate his wrestling TOO good to MMA but he does it pretty well. I think he will be able to get Kampmann down a few times, but I do not think he is going to be able to run a takedown clinic on Kampmann and hold him there for 15 minutes. Kampmann is pretty good at getting back up, but the fight with Shields worries me. A gassed Shields was able to get Kampmann down, and advance position well. Alves was able to advance position on the mat as well. Kampmann also has the tendency to get backed up into the fence often (as we all know), but he isn't easy to put away. Kampmann will probably outstrike Hendricks in a straight striking match, but Hendricks has those big hooks and Kampmann is susceptible to those big hooks. Kampmann also had good takedowns of his own, he seems to take fighters down best when he is in the clinch, not when he shoots doubles/singles. Hendricks has been taken down quite a bit for a wrestler, and I think Kampmann might be able to get him down. This is a hard fight to call and I lean Hendricks to get another close decision. Also, Kampmann +3.5 would be a decent bet as well, but I have a feeling that will be close to -200.


I still have to look at the rest, but I think I am going to end up convincing myself into a Tom Lawlor pick over Francis Carmont as crazy as it sounds.

[SPX]

As long as GSP fights like GSP, I think we'll see a pretty dominant performance. He'll take Condit down and do his GSP thing. And that's pretty much that.

As for Kampmann/Hendricks, I dunno, I guess I kind of expect Hendricks to take it, or maybe that's just the pessimist in me. But Kampmann can pretty much win any fight and has a long history of playing the spoiler. Kampmann is very hittable and Hendricks could potentially land a big punch that finishes him. Or maybe Hendricks can wall n' stall his way to a decision. But Hendricks is also the guy who lost a decision to Rick Story, who Kampmann convincingly outwrestled and outfought. Kampmann also held his own in the wrestling department with Shields.

So Hendricks via KO or boring decision, or Kampmann via decision or submission would be my guess.

[Ludo]

Kampmann is definitely hittable, he actually got outlanded by Story in their fight if I remember right. Hendricks has the tools to win this, but like you said Martin has ruined a few people's special nights. It's hard to say here. On the one hand Kampmanns defensive wrestling is underrated, but on the other hand while he's clearly the superior technical striker he has a tendency to allow himself to be drawn into sloppy brawls which doesn't favor him at all.

Both have advantages depending on how this plays out. In a straight up kickboxing fight where Martin stays disciplined he takes this fight. There aren't a whole lot of guys at 170 who can play Kampmann's game and come out of it ahead. The same can be said for Hendricks' game either, though.

[SPX]

Yeah, I mean, it was a super close fight and was a while back at this point, but you can't forget that Kampmann holds a win over the current interim champ.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, I mean, it was a super close fight and was a while back at this point, but you can't forget that Kampmann holds a win over the current interim champ.

That's actually another example of his underrated grappling. Thanks brah