UFC 154

[edman5555]

Stout might be pretty decent at mixing up the takedowns with the striking. This will be the first guy Makdessi has faced in the octagon with good striking and a good all around game. Should be interesting.

[poopoo333]

[mike]

i put 10u on Phillipou and 1u on Lawlor

[poopoo333]

Like them both. I am hoping Phillipou is around -200 on 5d

[SPX]

I was hoping to get Philippou more like around -170. . .

[SPX]

I like Hominick at -280.

[edman5555]

i put 10u on Phillipou and 1u on Lawlor

Carmont seems to be pretty good from what I read.

Phillipou was a very accomplished amateur boxer. I believe he was somewhat close to becoming an olympic team member. That said, Nick Ring is an experienced kickboxer. I don't know who wins that. I tend to beleive Phillipous is a better boxer than Ring is a kickboxer due to his almost olympic status but Nick has the advantage of having used his legs as well as his hands for his entire career. That said, I would be suprsied to see Nick use his ground game in this one(brown belt in bjj) just because Phillipou has such sturdy takedown defense. I wonder if Philliou's ground game is good enough that Serra/longo will come up with a gameplan involing phillipou shooting for a takedown. If not then this should be a good stand up battle. I have no idea who wins.

Hominick/Garza: Hominick is pretty good. Garza has had some astonishing finishes. That makes me wary of betting against him. Something I just noticed while looking at Hominicks record. His wife was pregnant during the aldo fight and gave birth a month after the fight. This might have affected his training for the Zombie fight. Maybe I am reaching.

[poopoo333]

Carmont is pretty good. I bet big on him in his last two fights, BUT I almost had a heart attack in both of those fights. He gets put in very bad positions. In fact, I am pretty sure he won his last two fights partly because his opponents gassed hard.

[SPX]

Phillipou was a very accomplished amateur boxer. I believe he was somewhat close to becoming an olympic team member. That said, Nick Ring is an experienced kickboxer. I don't know who wins that. I tend to beleive Phillipous is a better boxer than Ring is a kickboxer due to his almost olympic status but Nick has the advantage of having used his legs as well as his hands for his entire career. That said, I would be suprsied to see Nick use his ground game in this one(brown belt in bjj) just because Phillipou has such sturdy takedown defense. I wonder if Philliou's ground game is good enough that Serra/longo will come up with a gameplan involing phillipou shooting for a takedown. If not then this should be a good stand up battle. I have no idea who wins.

I don't think there will be much doubt as to who actually won, just as there wasn't much doubt as to who won when Ring fought Fukuda. But Ring seems to have a Garcia-esque way of getting the judges on his side. That's what I'd be worried about.

Hominick/Garza: Hominick is pretty good. Garza has had some astonishing finishes. That makes me wary of betting against him. Something I just noticed while looking at Hominicks record. His wife was pregnant during the aldo fight and gave birth a month after the fight. This might have affected his training for the Zombie fight. Maybe I am reaching.

The Zombie fight was like 8 seconds long. I think the truth is simple. Hominick threw a punch, Zombie dodged it and then hit Hominick really hard in the face. It happens. At the time I thought it was a fluke but Zombie showed us in the Poirier fight that he's actually pretty damn good.

[poopoo333]

Yeah, I bet huge on Nick Ring over Court McGee at UFC 149 and was pissed. I though I lost that bet for sure.

Then I got real happy when he got the decision.

Nick Ring has a horrible gas tank. He might do well in round 1, but Phillipou could take over in 2 and 3. Phillipou has some pretty decent TDD as he showed against Fukuda..so Ring won't be able to get him down most likely if he is getting boxed up

[edman5555]

Yeah, I bet huge on Nick Ring over Court McGee at UFC 149 and was pissed. I though I lost that bet for sure.

Then I got real happy when he got the decision.

Nick Ring has a horrible gas tank. He might do well in round 1, but Phillipou could take over in 2 and 3. Phillipou has some pretty decent TDD as he showed against Fukuda..so Ring won't be able to get him down most likely if he is getting boxed up

Yeah IMO this one is too close to call because there is no way to say whether his kickboxing beats PHillipous boxing.

[poopoo333]

Yeah IMO this one is too close to call because there is no way to say whether his kickboxing beats PHillipous boxing.

I do not think it will.

[SPX]

Not to play the MMAth game, but just look at Ring vs McGee and Philippou vs McGee.

[poopoo333]

Philippou vs McGee.

lol, I didn't even see that shit.

[SPX]

Go watch it. McGee stole a round but Philippou won 29-28 and was clearly the better fighter. Do you watch either of Ring's fights against McGee and say that he is clearly the better fighter? Nope.