UFC 157

[SPX]

Faber's been looking good. He tapped Miz in the first and just fucking destroyed Bowles.

I guess it's just hard to see a guy go from a 3 year winning streak to W-L-W-L-W-W-L-W-L and not think he might be on the decline, even if it's a very slow decline. Of course I realize strength of competition also has something to do with it.

[edman5555]

I think strength of comp is everything.

[poopoo333]

Liz Carmouche vs Ronda Rousey - 5 rounds - UFC 157 propositions
Sat 2/23		1003 Carmouche/Rousey goes 5 round distance		+1000
11:00PM		1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance		-2000
Sat 2/23		1005 Carmouche wins inside distance		+734
11:00PM		1006 Not Carmouche inside distance		-1554
Sat 2/23		1007 Carmouche wins by 5 round decision		+2600
11:00PM		1008 Not Carmouche by 5 round decision		-8200
Sat 2/23		1009 Rousey wins inside distance		-750
11:00PM		1010 Not Rousey inside distance		+450
Sat 2/23		1011 Rousey wins by 5 round decision		+1360
11:00PM		1012 Not Rousey by 5 round decision		-3315
Sat 2/23		1013 Carmouche/Rousey draw		+15000
11:00PM		1014 Fight not a draw		-45000
Sat 2/23		1025 Rousey wins in round 1		-295
11:00PM		1026 Any other result		+215
Dan Henderson vs Lyoto Machida - 3 rounds - UFC 157 propositions
Sat 2/23		1103 Henderson/Machida goes 3 round distance		-165
10:30PM		1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+125
Sat 2/23		1105 Henderson wins inside distance		+400
10:30PM		1106 Not Henderson inside distance		-600
Sat 2/23		1107 Henderson wins by 3 round decision		+405
10:30PM		1108 Not Henderson by 3 round decision		-615
Sat 2/23		1109 Machida wins inside distance		+257
10:30PM		1110 Not Machida inside distance		-370
Sat 2/23		1111 Machida wins by 3 round decision		+118
10:30PM		1112 Not Machida by 3 round decision		-158
Sat 2/23		1113 Henderson/Machida draw		+7000
10:30PM		1114 Fight not a draw		-18500
Urijah Faber vs Ivan Menjivar - 3 rounds - UFC 157 propositions
Sat 2/23		1203 Faber/Menjivar goes 3 round distance		-210
10:00PM		1204 Fight won't go 3 round distance		+160

[poopoo333]

Women's Bantamweight	Ronda Rousey (c)	vs.	Liz Carmouche
Light Heavyweight	Dan Henderson	vs.	Lyoto Machida
Bantamweight	Urijah Faber	vs.	Ivan Menjivar
Featherweight	Chad Mendes	vs.	Manny Gamburyan
Welterweight	Josh Koscheck	vs.	Robbie Lawler
Heavyweight	Brendan Schaub	vs.	Lavar Johnson
Lightweight	Michael Chiesa	vs.	Anton Kuivanen
Welterweight	Court McGee	vs.	Josh Neer
Lightweight	Sam Stout	vs.	Caros Fodor
Featherweight	Dennis Bermudez	vs.	Matt Grice
Welterweight	Kenny Robertson	vs.	Brock Jardine
Welterweight	Jon Manley	vs.	Neil Magny

[edman5555]

I like Mendes, Faber, Rousey and Koscheck. I am scared of the power in Robbie's hands though.

[poopoo333]

Love Koscheck and Mendes. Rousey is going to win but her line sucks (obviously).

Also...my favorite bet of the card assuming the line is near even: Brendan Schaub. Yes I know his chin sucks. Yes I know Lavar has huge power.

[edman5555]

I wouldn't be suprised to see Schaub as a dog.

[edman5555]

Schaub has been knocked out twice, his last win was against cro cop which is a good win but probably not likely to impress many people. Lavar is 2 and 1 in the ufc with two recent victories by knockout. I bet Schaub takes him down and submits him/gnps him.

[edman5555]

It will be interesting to see if he tries for the gnp tko over a submission. He's been knocked out twice recently so he might be itching to knock someone else out. Thats what I was afraid would happen with Rafael Natal last night. It ended up happening too. Natal came out striking for the entire first round and then he got dropped at some point and went in for the takedown. After that he came out in the third round and went straight to the ground. I had him inside the distance BTW for almost 1000 dollars.

[poopoo333]

Some new odds

[edman5555]

wow koscheck opens as massive favorite.

[poopoo333]

On paper, Koscheck wins. I loved him in this fight when it was first announced. However, I am not going to lay the juice on a guy that usually neglects to use his wrestling and stands. This can be faulty against a guy like Lawler. Also, SF guys are on a good run in the UFC..will the trend continue? Lawler for a small play or nothing here imo

[Thewisemann]

Yea can't bet Kos at those odds. Not sure if I will be betting this card at all except Menjivar.

[edman5555]

menji over faber? Damn. I was thinking Faber would trounce him.

[Thewisemann]

He might. I just put .5u on Menjivar @+300. Faber should win though.