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  • MMA_scientist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 9857

    #31
    Originally posted by poopoo333
    Tim Boetsch was getting Phillipou down easily before he got injured or whatever happened. I bet Costa big in that fight and I thought Tim had it in the bag in round 1 because of the takedowns/top control but I got lucky he got hurt. Jacare is going to dominate.
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    • poopoo333
      MMA *********
      • Jan 2010
      • 18302

      #32
      Originally posted by MMA_scientist
      ALL IN?
      I would like to go all in on Cain/Jacare/JDS but I am scared of JDS losing.

      But I might bet Jacare enough to win $1k because I am a crazy ass MOTHERFUCKER

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      • MMA_scientist
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 9857

        #33
        Originally posted by poopoo333
        I would like to go all in on Cain/Jacare/JDS but I am scared of JDS losing.

        But I might bet Jacare enough to win $1k because I am a crazy ass MOTHERFUCKER
        Jacare/Cain sounds pretty good. I am not betting against Hunt in what is probably a kickboxing match.
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        • Vandelay
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1934

          #34
          Im going to be on hunt for sure. JDS will probably come in looking to grapple, but Hunt getting plus 300 in a fight that most likely will be played out on the feet...I like those odds.

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          • SPX
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 23875

            #35
            When has JDS EVER come in looking to grapple?
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #36
              We really gotta wait almost 3 weeks for this shit?
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                #37
                Originally posted by SPX
                When has JDS EVER come in looking to grapple?
                Never. However he doesn't usually fight talented strikers. Aside from Gilbert Yvel and Mirko cro cop. Those are the two best strikers he has fought. Mirko was doing somewhat okay with him, one judge on sherdog gave him round one. I don't know where Hunt stands compared to them but he seems to have been a lot more successful in the UFC.

                For the sake of argument I will say that Hunt is the most dangerous striker Junior has fought. I think he is for the record. Junior has an incentive to take the fight to the ground. He has the advantage there. He is a black belt in brazilian jiu jitsu. Believe it or not Junior started in Jiu jitsu before boxing according to what I have read in interviews. Juniors wrestling is also decent based on what we have seen him be able to do defensively. On top of that his cardio is probably a lot better. I base that on the fact that he made it five rounds wrestling with Cain. I know he looked like shit at the end but he still did it.

                JDS has never tried to do much else than strike so theres no reason to think he should but if you really break it down he has a great reason to do it.
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                • edman5555
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MMA_scientist
                  he is so slow though, and DA is fast. I think Dunham has a better chance if he grapples him.
                  Exactly what I was thinking. Of all things Dunham can probably work a positional grappling gameplan. I doubt he submits RDA because I get the impression RDA was pretty good in straight BJJ but Dunham has always looked good in the wrestling department and he has fought a decent amount of wrestlers.

                  Also a reminder. Something I forgot, Dunham beat Tibau after he gassed. I kept looking at the the Tibau-dunham and Tibau-Rda fights and thinking I was crazy for giving the edge to RDA because Tibau beat him and Dunham beat Tibau. Obviously its a different matchup but I still kept thinking about it. I believe Tibau wrestled RDA IIRC. Beating him by maintaining position. Tibau has strength Dunham doesn't though. Anyways, slight edge like you said. I wish the line was better. I will probably still bet it because I am like a crack addict.
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                  • Svino
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 3873

                    #39
                    Originally posted by edman5555
                    Juniors wrestling is also decent based on what we have seen him be able to do defensively.
                    I don't know if we can assume that. It's pretty common for MMA strikers to develop great takedown defense without also having good offensive wrestling.

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                    • edman5555
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6628

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Svino
                      I don't know if we can assume that. It's pretty common for MMA strikers to develop great takedown defense without also having good offensive wrestling.
                      Yeah I thought that as well. Overall I will give the grappling edge to JDS though. Hunt actually has some decent takedown defense of his own just because he is a stocky samoan but JDS is a black belt on the ground. I would think IF he can get him down he holds a significant edge there.
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                      • edman5555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 6628

                        #41
                        Francisco Trinaldo versus Mike Rio:

                        Trinaldo is a good kickboxer with some decent wrestling. He lost to Tibau via wrestling but it wasn't a total clinic. The only problem is Rio is a JUCO wrestling champ. No idea. Maybe Trinaldo if he is a significant dog. Rio got beat by Efrain Escudero. Not that he is horrible or anything but he isn't that great.
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                        • Svino
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 3873

                          #42
                          Originally posted by edman5555
                          I would think IF he can get him down he holds a significant edge there.
                          Yeah, I don't doubt that.

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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            #43
                            Originally posted by edman5555
                            Never. However he doesn't usually fight talented strikers. Aside from Gilbert Yvel and Mirko cro cop. Those are the two best strikers he has fought.
                            I just don't even think JDS's mind works that way. He's a kickboxer and that's where he's most comfortable. And when he fights other kickboxers he likes to engage in kickboxing matches.

                            If JDS gameplans to wrestle this time, well, we've seen strikers do that before when they feel they have a distinct grappling advantage over another striker, but it will literally be the first time that's ever been the case.
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                            • SPX
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 23875

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Svino
                              I don't know if we can assume that. It's pretty common for MMA strikers to develop great takedown defense without also having good offensive wrestling.
                              Didn't he slam Shane Carwin?
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                              • edman5555
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 6628

                                #45
                                I think he did shoot for takedowns on carwin. That is actually what i was thinking about but i couldnt remember if he landed them.
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