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  • mike
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 541

    #91
    Originally posted by Luke
    Constantly gaining and losing weight....not sure how to say this........ makes your body age much faster . Its also hard on your organs which will end up slowing your recovery time, reflexes , etc. If you look at fighters that have fought well into their 40s ,it has been fighters who have taken care of themselves and constantly stayed at the same weight range. Rumble's career will be over before he ever hits 35 because of these cuts
    what i dont get is why a professional fighter doesnt know this. even if he only planned to fight for a few years, cutting weight the way he did is never a good idea. In Rumble's case, Wouldnt it make more sense to start fighting at Middleweight instead of WElter? He can fight lower tier guys, hone his skills while not having to cut so much weight. Instead of using his size to defeat his opponents, which was pretty much what he did at welter, he shoulda fight at MW where he would have to use his skills to beat them. That would force him to train proper techniques, instead of relying on size. Then when he start beating higher level guys, and getting into title talks, by that time he would have acquired a good amount of skills to go with his athleticism and size advantage. Now if he then decides to cut weight and fight for title contention, he can still do it but it would probably be a lil less taxing since he wouldnt be fighting as often against the top guys. He cut weight to fight against guys he probably didnt need to cut weight to beat them and screw up his body.

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    • Luke
      10 year vet
      • Oct 2006
      • 30060

      #92
      Originally posted by edman5555
      Really? What else makes your body age much faster?
      Alcohol, drugs, cigs, lack of exercise.
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      • SPX
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 23875

        #93
        Originally posted by edman5555
        I wonder how much the people of their respective weight classes hate guys like anthony johnson. Its almost cheating. How about dan hardy? He must hate aj. Aj told everyone he was going to stand and bang in that fight then he wrestle fucked him for three rounds while weighing 200+ pounds.
        Yeah, I have often felt that with certain guys who take weight cutting to the extreme, it negates the purpose of weight classes. I mean, weight classes are to make sure that guys of similar size/weight fight each other. Like you say, to try to beat the system and gain such an extreme advantage by cutting loads of weight is almost like cheating.
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        • SPX
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 23875

          #94
          Dantas vs Nam


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          • edman5555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 6628

            #95
            Dantas was really pressing forward. I wonder if he underestimated nam.
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            • SPX
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 23875

              #96
              Probably. He didn't seem to have any respect for his power, that's for sure.
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              • edman5555
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6628

                #97
                Originally posted by Luke
                Alcohol, drugs, cigs, lack of exercise.
                Damn i am a drinker. I used to smoke but i quit. I wonder how much the alcohol really gets ya. Sometimes i think about quitting all together. Might be good. I am thirty uears old now.
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                • edman5555
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 6628

                  #98
                  Originally posted by SPX
                  Probably. He didn't seem to have any respect for his power, that's for sure.
                  I feel like moraes should have all the advantages but nam looks like he is a good striker in his own right. Moraes was also able to take down torres and work in his guard for a bit. I feel like he takes it but i worry about nams power.
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                  • SPX
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 23875

                    #99
                    My main concern about Moraes is that he has lost to his fair share of no names with less than sterling records. He's not an undefeated wunderkind.
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                    • edman5555
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6628

                      Originally posted by SPX
                      My main concern about Moraes is that he has lost to his fair share of no names with less than sterling records. He's not an undefeated wunderkind.
                      Yeah the Ralph Acosta fight worries me. He doesn't appear to be some world beater. Nam has some similar losses on his resume as well. Honestly this fight looks pretty close. I just see Nam as being this guy who is good on the feet and picked up a flukey win over Dantas. I could be wrong though. I do think he has good standup. I watched his fight against Keola Silva (2-0) and he dropped him a few times but lost in the grappling department. That fight is one of the reasons I consider his Dantas win a bit flukey. He lost to a 2-0 guy.

                      I watched Moraes fight against Davids Tauraviscius. He was winning that one pretty handily untl David reversed the course of the fight. He tagged Taur on the feet repeatidly. Got him to the ground, took his back and almost had the rear naked. Then Taur reversed and jumped on the arm triangle. It was actually a really impressive reversal.

                      I think Moraes is the more well rounde fighter. Muay thai champ, brown belt in jiu jitsu. He is now training with Almeida/Gracies camp. I think this is something that happened very recently so maybe we can see some improvement in his game. I'll probably bet him.

                      I have money on branch already. I didn't post it yet. How does everyone see this going? Do you think Filhos panic attack was real? Maybe he missed his flight and some reporter decided to call it a panic attack.
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                      • SPX
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 23875

                        Okay Edman, you've convinced me. I'm going to bet Moraes.

                        As for Branch, I honestly have not seen Filho fight since he was talking to ghosts against Chael. But his best days do seem to be behind him.
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                        • edman5555
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 6628

                          Originally posted by SPX
                          Okay Edman, you've convinced me. I'm going to bet Moraes.

                          As for Branch, I honestly have not seen Filho fight since he was talking to ghosts against Chael. But his best days do seem to be behind him.
                          Well I havent bet him. He could def lose. Nam packs some power in his hands. I was just trying to discuss. If I win my other bets I will bet Nam.
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                          • SPX
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 23875

                            WTF? Now you're going to bet Nam?
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                            • edman5555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 6628

                              No I am not going to bet Nam.
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                              • SPX
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 23875

                                Nigga, you JUST said:

                                "If I win my other bets I will bet Nam."
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