UFC 162

[edman5555]

I'll be on Andrew Craig as an underdog.

Why do you like him better?

[poopoo333]

Tough, scrappy, can mix things up well.

Leben=going downhill, predictable, probably not sober etc.

[edman5555]

I understand. I watched lebens blogs and think he will be sober for the fight. Maybe i am naive. Ypur right about him being predictable. He has never really been that great. Hes had a couple of decent performances within the past couple of years but you could be right.

I guess where i would deviate is leben could end up looking better in this fight than he has in some time if he has cleaned himself up and craig is decent but not really a very good fighter. He is tough and scrappy. Im not sure he is more skilled than leben though. I will probably only take leben if i can get him with points. Thats the only way i feel confident.


Im still debating taking roger with points. Tim kennedy is a good fighter and roger is still green. If i knew he was going to come out and use his range and try to kickbox a little bit i would bet him. I dont think kennedy can knock him out on th feet very easily.

[edman5555]

Leben cut 21 pounds in 24 hours for mark munoz. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ycn-10380599

Leben was sick and vomiting before his fight with brian stann.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/561177-chris-lebens-coach-blames-illness-for-lebens-loss-to-brian-stann-at-ufc-125

Brunson was a 14 month layoff. I know i am the king of making excuses for fighters but there could be value in Lebens line because he has looked like shit for so long. If he is being professional now he could be the rightful favorite.

[edman5555]

Leben talking about his training camp. He sounds pretty good.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=relmfu&v=MWtmzD6_ezk

[edman5555]

Poopoo, you have a take on roger gracie and tim kennedy?

[poopoo333]

No, I really don't. If I had to bet it would be Kennedy though. I don't have a good read on either of the guys.

[edman5555]

Im tinkering with the idea of taking roger with points. He should have six inches of height on kennedy. I do think kennedy is more well rounded but wrestling and submissions are the main part of his game and they will be hard to implement here.

[Vandelay]

I lean towards weidman against silva. His grappling is pretty damn good. Takedowns are well timed and he has multiple ways to get the fight to the ground via double legs, single legs, trips, etc. His one weakness regarding wrestling seems to be taking down opponents against the cage. He can do it, but he isnt as good compared to being away from the fence. Striking is good, not great. Clinch game is good, not great. Has shown a good chin, ability to fight through fatigue and a great ability to scramble. Control on the ground seems to be secondary to fishing for submissions, but Anderson doesnt really attempt to get up once taken down either. Bottom line for me is whether or not Weidman can consistently get Anderson to the ground and I believe he can.

[poopoo333]

I'll be on Weidman. I wonder where the line will end up?

[Vandelay]

After going through his UFC fights here are my quick observations.

Sakara - First UFC fight. Striking is average at best. Takedowns telegraphed. Struggled early taking down Sakara which was partially due to not setting up shots and being forced to take down Sakara against the cage. Another note in this fight was how Weidman struggled taking down a patient fighter. In most of his other fights the opponent was always walking forward which is something Silva doesnt do much of.

Bongfeldt - Couldnt find video but I recall him taking a flush high kick and walking right through it.

Lawlor - Good takedown and quick sub via darce i belive.

Maia - striking is evolving, unafraid of grappling with maia, showed good striking defense, had maia scouted well.

Munoz - Complete domination. Took Munoz down whenever he wanted. Great timing in both striking and wrestling. Controlled Munoz well on the ground and threatened with chokes. Good defensive striking again.

[edman5555]

Munoz had a broken foot.

[edman5555]

I posted a poll on sbr. The poll asked who people think will win the fight between leben and craig. I voted for leben. It was the only vote he got. Five other people voted for craig. Maybe i will be able to get leben as the dog..

[Thewisemann]

Weidman took the Sakara fight on short notice.

[Mr. IWS]

I'll be on Weidman. I wonder where the line will end up?

hopefully unconscious