UFC 164

[MMA_scientist]

A lot of my friends are doing TRT, like half of the guys I know my age are taking T. I don't have any problem with it generally, good for them if they want to take it, don't care. But they all basically say the same thing these fighters say (it's just getting me to normal, etc). But I can tell you that they have all experienced physical changes, despite not doing anything. But like you say PP, several of them are all fucked up and are actually worse off than before. They look better, but they perform like shit. My personal theory is that their cardio can't handle their new aggression/explosion.

[poopoo333]

A lot of my friends are doing TRT, like half of the guys I know my age are taking T. I don't have any problem with it generally, good for them if they want to take it, don't care. But they all basically say the same thing these fighters say (it's just getting me to normal, etc). But I can tell you that they have all experienced physical changes, despite not doing anything. But like you say PP, several of them are all fucked up and are actually worse off than before. They look better, but they perform like shit. My personal theory is that their cardio can't handle their new aggression/explosion.

Oh, I really don't think testosterone is going to help fighters that much with their cardio. It's going to increase their bodyweight, it's going to make them hold more water and be bloated, etc. I don't think testosterone is going to make guys better cardio wise at all. The drug I mentioned earlier: boldenone is what can help a fighter's cardio the most.

[MMA_scientist]

That's what Im saying. Guys have all these new muscles and aggression and they want to use them, but since they haven't changed their training at all, they gas out badly. That's average joes though, not professional athletes. Both guys that this happened too took steroids in the past extensively FWIW (one guys is a former body builder who is fatter than me now).

[edman5555]

A lot of my friends are doing TRT, like half of the guys I know my age are taking T. I don't have any problem with it generally, good for them if they want to take it, don't care. But they all basically say the same thing these fighters say (it's just getting me to normal, etc). But I can tell you that they have all experienced physical changes, despite not doing anything. But like you say PP, several of them are all fucked up and are actually worse off than before. They look better, but they perform like shit. My personal theory is that their cardio can't handle their new aggression/explosion.

Do they lose their hair from testosterone? And how old are your friends? I thought you were a couple years older than me. I am 30. Your 35ish? Still young for TRT isn't it? You would think it would blow their system out after a while.

[trotterz]

Fatter than Fat Scientist? I don't believe that shit

[MMA_scientist]

Do they lose their hair from testosterone? And how old are your friends? I thought you were a couple years older than me. I am 30. Your 35ish? Still young for TRT isn't it? You would think it would blow their system out after a while.

I turned 36 a couple months ago. The guys I know that are on it range from 35 to 43. Most start around late 30's. I mean, Chael is 36 and I think Belfort is around the same age and they've been using it for years. As chance would have it the 3 guys I know really well were all bald or virtually bald. A couple other guys I know haven't lost their hair yet.

[MMA_scientist]

Fatter than Fat Scientist? I don't believe that shit

Shut up bitch. I'm a svelte 205 these days.

[trotterz]

Haha just kidding. I knew you were not that fat anymore since you compete more

[SPX]

(one guys is a former body builder who is fatter than me now).

Damn.

[SPX]

Shut up bitch. I'm a svelte 205 these days.

Good job.

I'm actually down 22 lbs since I started cutting like 6 months ago. Bodyfat's down's about 8%. It's amazing since I was up to 174 lbs not too long ago and if I lose 3 more pounds I'll be in the 140s again.

Pics coming soon.

[Luke]

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Pics coming soon.

Cant wait

[Luke]

As for everything you said poopoo, I agree with most everything you say, except how do we know that fighters like Hendo didn't juice to high hell when they were in PRIDE and that caused their low levels now?

[poopoo333]

As for everything you said poopoo, I agree with most everything you say, except how do we know that fighters like Hendo didn't juice to high hell when they were in PRIDE and that caused their low levels now?

I said that: "Yeah, I think that a lot of these guys with TRT exemptions have used testosterone illegally in the past."

Also I thought I copy/pasted the part of the article I quoted about Hendo in my 1st post where it said the doctor claimed that it's highly unlikely that a person would suffer from hypogonadism if they haven't used steroids in past...something like a 1% chance. Later in that article:

Dr. Karen Herbst, an endocrinologist at the University of San Diego with a specialization in testosterone issues in men, reviewed Henderson's blood tests from 2007-2011. She wrote, "It is my conclusion that Dan Henderson is suffering from hypogonadism with chronically low testosterone levels and is currently receiving the appropriate course of treatment for his condition."

So yeah, Hendo probably used steroids in the past. I'm sure lots of fighters with TRT exemptions have used them in the past. I mean come on...Todd Duffee is like 25 years old and needs a TUE. He was probably using in high school. Chael, Mir, Forrest, Hendo, Vitor, etc...all past users..I guarantee it.


Also this is a totally different subject but I am sure HGH is a huge drug in MMA as well...it is very popular in other sports as well. It's not so much a PED in terms of hormone alteration, it is more of a PED in a sense of "this drug is going to help you heal up really fucking good and fast". (cough Adrian Peterson cough)

[poopoo333]

Full odds

[Luke]

Who the hell are half those people?


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